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re: Why haven't we installed some sort of Wildcat package for Shep?
Posted on 4/29/12 at 7:31 pm to boxcar willie
Posted on 4/29/12 at 7:31 pm to boxcar willie
0:25 Looks like it works to me.
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Posted on 4/29/12 at 7:31 pm to Mr LSU2001
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Again which back would u take carries from?
id love if shep got all of blue's carries
hilliard/ware's power back plays can be decreased 25-30% and we can spread more runs to ford/shep
Posted on 4/29/12 at 7:33 pm to Bernie Moore
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In your playing days did ya'll switch frm power I to spread during a game using the same people?
we did in 2007
Posted on 4/29/12 at 8:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Again which back would u take carries from?
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id love if shep got all of blue's carries
hilliard/ware's power back plays can be decreased 25-30% and we can spread more runs to ford/shep
Ok SlowFlowPro... I get were you are going.. My only argument would be then why not give ford those 25% of the carries and then use shep in the screen game and quick passes... I don't think anyone will argue ford is a tougher runner... and would do better in that spot... They are never going to throw with shep for some reason.. Don't know what they have seen in practice.... We have seen Ware throw the ball so they must have more confidence in him throwing so shep in the wildcat would be predictable.... So i would much rather give ford those carries and use shep in his position in open space and maby a jet sweep every now and again... But wildcat wouldn't be my first choice for shep... I would rather ford runnning in traffic he has proven to be better...
Posted on 4/29/12 at 9:38 pm to Mr LSU2001
Shep is horrible in the back field! See link LINK
As a true freshman he had the highest yards per carry on the team and everyone plus their mom knew what was coming when he was in the back field. It wasn't until the Florida game where our offense was horrible, and he didn't even get a chance to play that he saw his only shot was to move to reciever.
As a true freshman he had the highest yards per carry on the team and everyone plus their mom knew what was coming when he was in the back field. It wasn't until the Florida game where our offense was horrible, and he didn't even get a chance to play that he saw his only shot was to move to reciever.
Posted on 4/29/12 at 9:41 pm to Bernie Moore
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Please explain who Shep would read.Kind of difficult for a pro style offensive line to switch to an Oregon offense w/o changing lineman.In your playing days did ya'll switch frm power I to spread during a game using the same people?
He could read the backside end off of zone read, the backside tackle off of midline, the play side end in dash. As for the blocking, it's not complicated at all. We already zone block up front with the line we have. It would just be spread out with guys like Landry, OBJ, Shep, etc. all on the field at the same time.
Instead we line up in two tights, JC Copeland, and 1 back while a shite ton of talent watches from the sidelines. ie JCCopeland fullback dive on 3rd and 4 down by 15 in the biggest game in school history.
Bottom line is we have too much talent to run the goal line offense that we do, and we could be so much more effective if we took advantage of the talent we have.
This post was edited on 4/29/12 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 4/29/12 at 9:45 pm to LSUTil_iDie
quote:There needs to be a threat to pass.
Why haven't we installed some sort of Wildcat package for Shep?
Posted on 4/29/12 at 9:46 pm to TheBob
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Bottom line is we have too much talent to run the goal line offense that we do, and we could be so much more effective if we took advantage of the talent we have.
I haven't read the whole thread but i don't think you take in to account not having a qb that the coaches trusted enough. I just don't understand how that is hard to see. You really don't think with an actual good qb, the offense will be more open?
Also, with the stable of backs that lsu has, do you want to abandon the run game? LSU has the offensive line and the backs to run over everyone on the schedule minus bama. Incorporating more passing in order to keep teams not stacked in the box and then pounding the shite out of teams with our backs seems like a winning combination for this season imo, Bob.
This post was edited on 4/29/12 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 4/29/12 at 9:49 pm to hemiroid
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Shep is horrible in the back field! See link LINK
As a true freshman he had the highest yards per carry on the team and everyone plus their mom knew what was coming when he was in the back field. It wasn't until the Florida game where our offense was horrible, and he didn't even get a chance to play that he saw his only shot was to move to reciever.
Never said he was horrible.. just that we have better options..As a true freshman he did fine in the carries he had... but he was a RB position not in a wildcat QB.... The coaches don't have confidence in him to throw... Again don't know why i am not at practice... Shep was use like that b/c we really did not have a back like that... Ford can do alot more running the ball and has proven to be a better runner.... Shep would be better suited to be used in the screen game... and jut sweeps... All i am saying is why take carries away from our True RB and Ford who can do same thing.... If you put shep in wildcat we become predictable since they won'y let him throw... But if you use Ford in the aspect of what we are talking about with shep we no have a RB in his position and Shep in his we become multi domentional with Mett... Shep could be even more dangerous if he mastered his position... Which is what i have said all along... If he became a better reciever the screens and double moves you can do would be dangerous... Remember Skyler Green.... thats how we should use shep... but he need to get better as WR
This post was edited on 4/29/12 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 4/29/12 at 9:52 pm to BeeFense5
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Also, with the stable of backs that lsu has, do you want to abandon the run game?
I absolutely do not want to abandon the run game. By us spreading it out, I believe we could be much more lethal in the run game. Having guys like Shep, OBJ, and Landry on the field at the same time puts legitimate home run threats from sideline to sideline that need to be accounted for. Thus, less people in the box equalling nice big running lanes for our talented stable of backs.
Posted on 4/29/12 at 9:57 pm to BeeFense5
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I haven't read the whole thread but i don't think you take in to account not having a qb that the coaches trusted enough. I just don't understand how that is hard to see. You really don't think with an actual good qb, the offense will be more open?
And I would love to believe this, however the national championship game severely damaged the shite out of me. Trust your QB or not, we didn't even try to do anything. Hence, my hard time with letting go and believing we will actually do something about it.
Posted on 4/29/12 at 9:58 pm to TheBob
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And I would love to believe this, however the national championship game severely damaged the shite out of me. Trust your QB or not, we didn't even try to do anything. Hence, my hard time with letting go and believing we will actually do something about it.
You were claiming earlier you want to run a redzone offense akin to Oregon. We were one of the most productive redzone teams in college football.
Just stop posting.
Posted on 4/29/12 at 10:15 pm to Tiger Authority
Go ahead and fricking link where I said that I wanted to run a red zone offense akin to Oregon.
Now shut the frick up when you realize it doesn't exist.
Posted on 4/29/12 at 10:31 pm to LSUTil_iDie
Posted on 4/30/12 at 9:26 am to TheBob
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Bottom line is we have too much talent to run the goal line offense that we do, and we could be so much more effective if we took advantage of the talent we have.
First, you said earlier that we need to run more zone read with Shep about a page or two earlier. Second, you're inferring that our talent at the "goal line" (aka redzone) is too good to avoid using our talent.
What exactly would you expect us to infer from this? Again, we had one of the most effective redzone offenses in the entire country. Just because you're unable to see that doesn't mean we should change our entire offensive philosophy in that area of the field to placate your desire to go back in time and change the course of a single game performance last year. And you will likely tell me that it has nothing to do with that. Well, if we wouldn't have lost, none of these types of threads would even exist.
Posted on 4/30/12 at 9:35 am to hemiroid
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As a true freshman he had the highest yards per carry on the team and everyone plus their mom knew what was coming when he was in the back field.
He is God awful with the ball in his hands
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