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re: Who will admit O has exceeded expectations and is an upgrade from Les?

Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:43 pm to
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Then if it was such a good decision and so well-executed, I assume they won the game?


Soccer fans We call yall grass fairies.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:44 pm to
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Soccer fans We call yall grass fairies.


These insults are just pathetic
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:45 pm to
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Plenty here wanted him gone prior to the stubbornness


BillJ
Max
SFP
The Egg

these hated Miles from the get go

They also hate Orgeron. They haven't been happy since Saban.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:46 pm to
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Plenty here wanted him gone prior to the stubbornness (i.e. less than a year after the offense we put up in 2013)



you may be stretching this notion a bit...and besides...That offense was an outlier among Miles offenses with the numbers OBJ/JL and Mett put up.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:47 pm to
LSU had 1st and goal at the 7 with 2 timeouts and 35 seconds on the clock.

1st play Guice for 2 yards...TO FLORIDA! 26 seconds left
2nd play Guice for 4yds to the 1...TO LSU
3rd play no gain TO LSU
4th down fumble

Tell me how we weren't able to run the entire offense? we ran it 4x bc we had timeouts. Would you not have given it to Guice on 4th and 1?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:47 pm to
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you may be stretching this notion a bit


I'm not.

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That offense was an outlier among Miles offenses with the numbers OBJ/JL and Mett put up.


Sure, but over the course of his time here, 2014/15 were the outliers too.
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:50 pm to
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we ran it 4x bc we had timeouts.

They were able to run it four times because McElwain called timeouts to preserve time on the clock for himself

Unless you think that O intentionally called running plays to not score and make UF take timeouts.
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 3:50 pm
Posted by SportTiger1
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:50 pm to
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The gameplan was solid against bama


man

i knew 3 plays into each game, 2016,17,18 that we had no chance to win if those were the gameplans. and sure enough...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:50 pm to
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LSU had 1st and goal at the 7 with 2 timeouts and 35 seconds on the clock.


Yep. Awesome drive. Terrible finish.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:52 pm to
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The classic "but but but Les did it too!". Les was fired, why compare O to someone he was supposed to improve upon?



anyone with any football knowledge would see how glaring the differences are between the 2 in clock management just comparing those 2 games. One did a great job managing the clock (I mean shite we had 2 TO's with less than 30 seconds left when has Miles ever had that)...and the Auburn game...just go watch the last drive
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:55 pm to
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McElwain called timeouts to preserve time on the clock for himself


of course he called a timeout...bc we executed the perfect last drive until fumbling on the final play. The goal is to score and leave little to no time on the clock and make the opponent use TO's.

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Unless you think that O intentionally called running plays to not score and make UF take timeouts.


this is dumb
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:56 pm to
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Terrible finish.



still amazed they botched the last play
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:57 pm to
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anyone with any football knowledge would see how glaring the differences are between the 2 in clock management just comparing those 2 games


We drive down the field at Auburn and would have won had the clock operator decided to operate the clock any differently.

I know Roger said it about the UF game, but I'm sure you agree. It was a great drive with a terrible ending. That is equally applicable to the Auburn game if you aren't shilling for one coach only.

Now if you want to talk about Ole Miss '09, yea Les fricked that up pretty good.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 4:00 pm to
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5 loss division title.. In the ACC


So what? I really don't see how you can scoff at his career accomplishments.

You have to make the most of where you are and what you're given. He did, and his current performance suggests that in hindsight maybe winning his division at that time was a tremendous coaching job, one that lesser coaches couldn't have done.

The coach here is in a much tougher conference, but was also given a much better team than Dabo was given. Get it done.
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 4:07 pm
Posted by earl keese
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 4:05 pm to
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RogerTheShrubber


It's so fricking easy to get under your skin Roger.

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Just so you know, the most vocal "Miles Haters" are on your team right now as Orgeron haters.


OH NO! I had no idea we had "teams."
Posted by Mark17
Member since May 2019
253 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 4:08 pm to
He hasnt exceeded expectations imo. He is doing what I thought he would do. I do agree he is an upgrade over miles, based upon the simple fact he is willing to make changes in order to improve the program. Miles was unwilling.
Posted by earl keese
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 4:10 pm to
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The O lackeys are the ones just happy Miles is gone because they spent years calling him an idiot that was holding us back and winning on talent alone.

They flipped the script in September of 2017, though, once they realized going 44-1 OOC isn’t actually as easy as it appeared so they started the rebuild narrative.


Spot on.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 4:11 pm to
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That is equally applicable to the Auburn game if you aren't shilling for one coach only.



My problem with the drive is we should have had more urgency getting plays off in b/w snaps. Had we done that we could've run another play...you really need to just watch that drive again. I want to say a play ended with 50+ seconds left and we didn't snap the ball until about 25 seconds left. That is half the clock we let wind down.

ETA_even with what I thought was a lack of urgency the same thing cost us the game as it did in the UF game...bad execution on final play
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 4:15 pm
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 4:11 pm to
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these hated Miles from the get go


Include me in that list
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 4:14 pm to
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My problem with the drive is we should have had more urgency getting plays off in b/w snaps. Had we done that we could've run another play


You can't assume the plays work the same if we rushed them.
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you really need to just watch that drive again


No i don't.

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I want to say a play ended with 50+ seconds left and we didn't snap the ball until about 25 seconds left. That is half the clock we let wind down.


We still were within a second of winning that game. You can't say it was horrible clock management considering we needed to drive the length of the field with no timeouts and needed a td, when we came that close to pulling it off.

Like I've said twice now, there are better examples.
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