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re: Who will admit O has exceeded expectations and is an upgrade from Les?
Posted on 5/2/19 at 8:33 am to Tiger Voodoo
Posted on 5/2/19 at 8:33 am to Tiger Voodoo
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o no talking about the massive underachieving in 2017.
2017 was all Matt Canada’s fault.
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 8:33 am to radicalizedtigah
O has exceeded my expectations but i dont know if hes an upgrade to Les. They are on par with each other. Both are good recruiters of players and coaches for their staffs. Until O can improve his season record of fewer than 3 losses and beat Bama, les will have the edge on him.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 8:33 am to RB10
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I included all the talent that was drafted "since Orgeron took over". Your parameters ben, not mine
Like I said. You knew and you know what I was talking about. You're just dishonest. I don't know why people waste time with you.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 8:34 am to bencoleman
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Where is the talent that you all have been crowing about all year. Where is it? It doesn't and didn't exist.
Offensively it was meh, defensively it was loaded.
This is the first season since 2013 that we have multiple talented players at every skill position.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 8:36 am to bencoleman
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Like I said. You knew and you know what I was talking about. You're just dishonest. I don't know why people waste time with you.
I'm not here trying to interpret what you meant to say. I responded to what you said, which was "since Orgeron took over".
This includes the last two drafts, and next years draft. Like I said, don't get angry and lash out. Just express your thoughts clearly next time.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 8:42 am to bencoleman
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Where is the talent that you all have been crowing about all year.
Link?
And are you arguing that the offense can only be judged by players drafted this year? Several other players from that unit will be drafted this year and beyond.
Regardless, everyone knew there was a huge talent gap in the backfield due to O’s failure to secure elite backs in 17 and 18.
The CheeriOs were the ones crowing all offseason that the OL was in flux in 17 but would be a strength in 18.
There was ample talent at WR and the most promising QB in years that was developed under Urban Meyer.
We saw first hand the potential the offense had against UGA. The staff failed to get those types of results most other weeks.
Not sure how that can be rationally disputed.
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bencoleman
Oh, right
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 8:45 am
Posted on 5/2/19 at 8:43 am to Tiger Voodoo
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The CheeriOs were the ones crowing all offseason that the OL was in flux in 17 but would be a strength in 18.
Links?
Posted on 5/2/19 at 8:44 am to RB10
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This includes the last two drafts, and next years draft. Like I said, don't get angry and lash out. Just express your thoughts clearly next time
I was perfectly clear. If you're too dense to understand maybe you should stick to the mett argument that you're losing so badly.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 8:45 am to BayouBengals18
2017 was Matt Canada's fault (except the Bama game where he scored more points on the road against Bama than O and E have in two home games combined) and making a bad hire was not O's fault since O didn't really hire Canada, it was Alleva who foisted Canada upon O and made O lie to the fans and press about the hire.
- O pumpers
- O pumpers
Posted on 5/2/19 at 8:46 am to Damone
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2017 was Matt Canada's fault
Matt Canada was a God! Damone.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 8:47 am to Tiger Voodoo
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? by Tiger Voodoo
Yeah. We saw those upperclassmen from the offense get drafted. Once again you're still deflecting from the original argument because you looked like a fool.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 8:48 am to Damone
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2017 was Matt Canada's fault (except the Bama game where he scored more points on the road against Bama than O and E have in two home games combined) and making a bad hire was not O's fault since O didn't really hire Canada, it was Alleva who foisted Canada upon O and made O lie to the fans and press about the hire
Who was the head coach when Canada scored his points?
Posted on 5/2/19 at 8:52 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The CheeriOs were the ones crowing all offseason that the OL was in flux in 17 but would be a strength in 18.
Links?
Provide the link I requested and I will reciprocate.
In the meantime, are you seriously pretending that the Cregg hire and Traore signing wasn’t heralded as some massive pull that would yield instant benefits to the OL?
That plus the continuity and cohesiveness argument was a staple talking point last offseason.
Plus losing the confusing Canada scheme was addition by subtraction
Posted on 5/2/19 at 8:53 am to bencoleman
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Who was the head coach when Canada scored his points?
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Once again you're still deflecting from the original argument because you looked like a fool.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:00 am to Tiger Voodoo
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In the meantime, are you seriously pretending that the Cregg hire and Traore signing wasn’t heralded as some massive pull that would yield instant benefits to the OL?
People were optimistic but the offensive line was always the big concern before the season started.
QB and RB were also pretty big concerns.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:01 am to RogerTheShrubber
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This is the first season since 2013 that we have multiple talented players at every skill position.
2014 Roster:
QB - Harris, Jennings
RB - Fournette, Magee, Hilliard, Williams
WR - Diarse, Quinn, Dupre, Chark, Dural
TE - Jeter, Gordon, Smith
2015:
QB - Etling, Jennings, Harris
RB - Brossette, Guice, Fournette, Williams
WR - Johnson, Diarse, Dupre, Dillon, Chark, Dural, Ferguson
TE - Jeter, Moreau, Gordon, Smith
2016:
QB - Etling, Scott
RB - Brossette, Guice, Fournette, Williams
WR - Sullivan, Dupre, Dillon, Gage, Chark, Dural, Ferguson
TE - Jeter, Moreau, Smith
2017:
QB - Etling, Brennan, Narcisse
RB - Brossette, Guice, Edwards-Helaire, Williams
WR - Chark, Sullivan, Anderson, Dillon, Jefferson, Gage
TE - Moreau
All of the bolded players got drafted, are in the league, and/or spent time in the league. But there was just no talent for O to work with at the skill positions.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:03 am to bencoleman
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Who was the head coach when Canada scored his points?
O put up 10 points on Bama
When is the ticker tape parade?
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:04 am to Tiger Voodoo
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Who was the head coach when Canada scored his points?
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Once again you're still deflecting from the original argument because you looked like a fool.
Not sure what point you're trying to make. The comment wasn't directed at you. Hell you haven't gotten anything else right so I don't know why I would think you'd start now.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:05 am to Damone
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O put up 10 points on Bama
When is the ticker tape parade
I'm not the one that keeps crying about it. You are.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:06 am to RogerTheShrubber
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QB and RB were also pretty big concerns
In O's first two classes he signed a grand total of 1 QB and 1 RB. Great strategy there.
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