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re: Who is LSU's fastest RB ?

Posted on 8/16/09 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 12:51 pm to
dude if everyone wasn't behind lee, who were they behind at that time? andrew hatch, who couldn't throw a pass?

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probably single-handedly took the heart out of our team when he failed against Bama

yea he didn't lead LSU on the drive at the end when we tied the game. our guys just quit on him

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Not to mention he set the tone in the UGA game with a pic 6 right off the bat

yeah he set the tone

we only went right back and scored on them with ease the next possession

another great example of the team quitting on him

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yeah...smart throw there ...brilliant to lob it up to their DE instead of taking a sack

it was a screen. hell he couldn't even look over there much before he threw because it was a screen

if a D sniffs out a screen there isn't much you can do. you just have to hope the RB can get to the ball and swat it down
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 12:52 pm to
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that is the most positive slant I've ever seen somebody put on something that was so bad

"so bad" would have been wesley carrol or sean glennan at QB

lee fricked up, but he kept us in games

if we had a good D we beat UGA, Ole Miss, and Arkansas and Auburn never scores on us
Posted by MineDatBird
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 12:56 pm to
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dude if everyone wasn't behind lee, who were they behind at that time?


nobody, which is the point. I always figured JJ was better but wasn't ready yet (all reports out of practice indicated the same)

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our guys just quit on him




hilarious

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another great example of the team quitting on him


the defense loved it when Lee immediately put them back on the field with momentum going against them so much... that had to be a joy

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it was a screen. hell he couldn't even look over there much before he threw because it was a screen


so you blindly throw that pass is what you are saying? bwahaa
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 12:59 pm to
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nobody

awesome philosophy

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I always figured JJ was better

he wasn't ready. lee wasn't ready, but JJ REALLY wasn't ready

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the defense loved it when Lee immediately put them back on the field with momentum going against them so much.

our D sucked even when we weren't turning it over

our D sucked against moo fricking state and troy

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so you blindly throw that pass is what you are saying?

do you understand the concept of a screen?

if you look at the back going out for a screen, the trickeration doesn't occur. you flip your head over at the last second so you don't tip the play off. that's the entire point of hte play
Posted by MineDatBird
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 12:59 pm to
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if we had a good D we beat UGA, Ole Miss, and Arkansas and Auburn never scores on us


yeah, the Bama and UGA losses had nothing to do with Lee ..which is why he's still got the starting job ..oh wait
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:01 pm to
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yeah, the Bama and UGA losses had nothing to do with Lee

we went to OT with bama

we let UGA score a shite-ton of points on our D

our D let arkansas and troy score a bunch on us, and we allowed MSU and AU to score offensively. MSU and AU were horrible on offense and didn't have QBs
Posted by MineDatBird
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:02 pm to
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awesome philosophy


because I have standards? When RP was gone it left us with no experienced option

I also think our LB corp is generally bad, which means I don't have to like any option

to say "Lee is the truth" because he was our best option at the time means two WAAAAAY different things

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do you understand the concept of a screen?


very well. A good QB doesn't make that careless throw

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:03 pm to
there were a handfull of QBs who were worse than lee last year in the SEC

whatever shitty QB MSU threw out there that day
burns/todd at AU
vandy's QB carousel
UK's QB carousel
wilson at bama

lee was far from great, but it could have been much worse. i don't see how y'all can't admit that
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:04 pm to
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When RP was gone it left us with no experienced option

with our D last year RP doesn't save us against UGA, UF, or Ole Miss

we may have beaten bama and we likely beat arky

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to say "Lee is the truth" because he was our best option at the time means two WAAAAAY different things

lee was the truth for our team last year at that point in the year. he was much better than hatch
Posted by MineDatBird
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:06 pm to
we beat all the early teams we needed to beat

we werent beating FL even if RP was our QB

then the UGA game we lose and although the D was soft Lee was simply terrible. He was even worse against Bama. Those were the two swing games of the season.

When our heart was ripped out after the Bama game went packed it in all around. Ole Miss and Ark games were nothing more than a team that quit and us trying to learn a new QB for the future

But if you have to credit one player for our implosion it was Lee without a doubt ..which is why he is not the starter any longer
Posted by MineDatBird
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:08 pm to
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whatever shitty QB MSU threw out there that day


they don't recruit like us so I would hope anything we put on the field would be better. bad comparison

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burns/todd at AU


offense scheme to talent was like square peg in round hole

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vandy's QB carousel


see Moo State comment

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UK's QB carousel


same

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n at bama


he was a solid manager...much like Flynn and Mauck were. Lee did FAR from managing
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:08 pm to
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When our heart was ripped out after the Bama game went packed it in all around.

not true

our offense was packed in and we were horrible

when they opened up the offense, we got better (last quarter of the troy game)

our D "packed it in" all year. they had 1 good game. bama. otherwise they sucked ALL YEAR

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But if you have to credit one player for our implosion it was Lee without a doubt

our OL and scott going south, while we tried to change to a power running game, killed our offense
Posted by MineDatBird
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:09 pm to
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with our D last year RP doesn't save us against UGA, UF, or Ole Miss


disagree about UGA and Ole Miss. We def win the Bama game with RP

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lee was the truth for our team last year at that point in the year




this should be a SFP synonym for "semantics"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:10 pm to
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offense scheme to talent was like square peg in round hole

yes, but burns/todd fricking blow

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he was a solid manager

he was worse than that. 9 fricking passing TDs? 7 interceptions? that's horrid

mauck and flynn were not managers

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Lee did FAR from managing

yea we had to rely on lee to make plays. if we asked our starting QB to play every game and throw 9 TDs last year we finish with 6 wins at best...maybe 4 or 5
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:11 pm to
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disagree about UGA and Ole Miss.

they could score on us whenever they wanted

it doesn't matter who the QB was

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We def win the Bama game with RP

we say this now, but there's nothing to indicate that RP wouldn't have had a meltdown game against a good D. he was unproven

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this should be a SFP synonym for "semantics"

no, it's the MineDatBird failure at context
Posted by NorfolkVATiger
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:11 pm to
How did a question about LSU's fastest RB turn into a referendum on Jarrett Lee?
Posted by MineDatBird
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:15 pm to
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our offense was packed in and we were horrible


Scott had more rushing yards and TDs than any player that played Bama's top defense

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our D "packed it in" all year. they had 1 good game. bama. otherwise they sucked ALL YEAR


I can admit the D was bad. You need to admit Lee was also pathetic

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our OL and scott going south, while we tried to change to a power running game, killed our offense


false

we were fine in that department until the UGA and Bama losses. then our ENTIRE team shut it down.

Lee was as much to blame for that as anyone..along with Malveto
Posted by MineDatBird
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:18 pm to
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he was worse than that. 9 fricking passing TDs? 7 interceptions? that's horrid

mauck and flynn were not managers


Wilson got that offense to the SEC title game. period. I'd say he managed just fine

Mauck was ok at times and so was Flynn, but all and all neither one of them were go-to game winners like JR was
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:19 pm to
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we were fine in that department until the UGA and Bama losses.

florida: 2.9 ypc
USC: 3.8 ypc

we weren't "fine" before these games. the running game was mediocre before UGA and Bama
Posted by MineDatBird
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 1:21 pm to
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they could score on us whenever they wanted

it doesn't matter who the QB was


I disagree. Tempos get set. Lee set it in UGA game and we answered. With all of the offensive fire power (play makers) in that game everyone who was watching it knew it was going to be a shootout from there

Ole Miss game was over after we lost to Bama and nearly got beat by Troy. We had packed it in

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