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Posted on 10/13/09 at 3:34 pm to slackster
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JJ may never make a mistake that cost LSU a game, but he certainly will never win one for LSU.
unbias, huh? that's just as bad as someone saying Lee will never get better
Posted on 10/13/09 at 3:37 pm to GeauxLSUGeaux
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PLease give us your reasoning for picking Jarrett Lee. I would love to hear how he is a better QB than jefferson by throwing more Int's than TD's.....
No problem. QBs make it in the draft based on their potential to succeed in the NFL.
Heisman winning QBs get drafted in the 7th round because college production does not equate to NFL success.
NFL scouts look for certain skills and mainly potential. JL looked terrible at times last year, but what will get him drafted was the times when he looked brilliant.
On the other hand, JJ has looked inept most of the year and has not shown any signs of brilliance out side of the 1st half of the bowl game. His performance this year has shown how much of a fluke that was.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 3:40 pm to slackster
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JJ may never make a mistake that cost LSU a game, but he certainly will never win one for LSU.
Jarrett Lee 116.9 143-269-16 Int's 53.2 1873 14 TD's 66 170.3 ypg
Jo. Jefferson 133.4 127-218-4 Int's 62.8 1435 yds 11TD's 58 169.3 ypg
To me it looks like Jordan Jefferson has done a waaaaay better job.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 3:42 pm to slackster
Neither.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 3:42 pm to Sammobile
What is biased about the statement?
JJ is not a gunslinger, but more of a game manager. Although I hate that term, its true in this instance. With the current system and attitude towards JJ, the coaches do not want him to win or lose any games for LSU, just survive.
On the other hand, JL was used as a gunslinger last year. He has thrown the ball in each of his appearances this year as well. Its the same system that JJ plays in, so obviously the coaches are comfortable with JL going out there and throwing it around to everyone, including the other team at times haha. JL was/is pushed to win the game by his own hand, and at times, you also lose games that way.
Its not a knock on either player, just two different attitudes and situations that the coaches have put them in.
JJ is not a gunslinger, but more of a game manager. Although I hate that term, its true in this instance. With the current system and attitude towards JJ, the coaches do not want him to win or lose any games for LSU, just survive.
On the other hand, JL was used as a gunslinger last year. He has thrown the ball in each of his appearances this year as well. Its the same system that JJ plays in, so obviously the coaches are comfortable with JL going out there and throwing it around to everyone, including the other team at times haha. JL was/is pushed to win the game by his own hand, and at times, you also lose games that way.
Its not a knock on either player, just two different attitudes and situations that the coaches have put them in.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 3:45 pm to slackster
Bottom line...
Lee has some qualities that NFL teams like. JJ may have, but hasn't shown it yet.
Kinda early to make predictions on either, but Lee throws a very good deep ball. Byrd could have had 2-3 long TD's last year if he didn't have the dropsies.
Say Lee gets over his INT's, JJ learns to be a pocket passer......its too early to tell. Both could happen.
Lee has some qualities that NFL teams like. JJ may have, but hasn't shown it yet.
Kinda early to make predictions on either, but Lee throws a very good deep ball. Byrd could have had 2-3 long TD's last year if he didn't have the dropsies.
Say Lee gets over his INT's, JJ learns to be a pocket passer......its too early to tell. Both could happen.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 3:48 pm to slackster
Lee was born to be an NFL qb
Posted on 10/13/09 at 3:54 pm to TigerNAtux
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I doubt either one lives in fear of being drafted in the first 10 rounds.
Nice. There's only 7 rounds.
This post was edited on 10/13/09 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:02 pm to slackster
JL at least he gets rid of the ball
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:22 pm to BayouBengals90
Lee has the talent to start on Sundays. Jefferson...not so much.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 4:23 pm to Ninja Looter
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Lee has the talent to start on Sundays. Jefferson...not so much.
Don't know. JJ's release is too slow for the NFL however.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 6:53 pm to slackster
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What is biased about the statement?
because you are saying he may never lose a game but he will never win one
that's like the people say Lee will never be a good starter
Posted on 10/13/09 at 7:08 pm to slackster
Lee will play in the NFL as a QB. He may not get there by way of LSU, but he'll be drafted.
Jefferson will not play in NFL as a QB, nor will Shepard.
For that matter, Pat White will not take meaningfull snaps as a QB in the NFL either.
Look at Vince Young. He can't beat out Kerry Collins a journeyman at best.
Dual Threat QB's don't make it in the NFL. Michael Vick, probably the best, was one of the worst rated QB's prior to his incarceration.
Jefferson will not play in NFL as a QB, nor will Shepard.
For that matter, Pat White will not take meaningfull snaps as a QB in the NFL either.
Look at Vince Young. He can't beat out Kerry Collins a journeyman at best.
Dual Threat QB's don't make it in the NFL. Michael Vick, probably the best, was one of the worst rated QB's prior to his incarceration.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 7:09 pm to specs1
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Michael Vick, probably the best, was one of the worst rated QB's prior to his incarceration.
and one of the biggest winners too
This post was edited on 10/13/09 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 10/13/09 at 7:11 pm to Sammobile
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and one of the best winners too
He peaked w/ the NFC championship game. After that year was a steady downhill slide. You can look it up. Also check his passer ratings for last year in NFL.
Posted on 10/13/09 at 7:17 pm to specs1
Lee
Posted on 10/13/09 at 7:21 pm to slackster
JL
Posted on 10/13/09 at 7:29 pm to Dice
Lee has NFL potential.
No way for JJ
No way for JJ
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