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re: Who here agreed with pulmonary with the pitching (from the beginning of the game)?

Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:41 am to
Posted by BayouBlogger
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:41 am to
Making an educated guess based on observation isn’t the same thing as assuming or claiming to know for sure. I’m not claiming to know for sure, and I’m not assuming. You’re claiming to know for sure Mainieri made the right choices and not that he was just fortunate the offense bailed him out.
Posted by Tigerpride18
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:43 am to
It's obvious he had a pregame plan and decided not to deviate too much from it. You know he doesnt evaluate the situations the same as a fan would. Hes deciding if the pitcher is getting hit based on bad pitches or based on good batting. Just an example
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:43 am to
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I’m not claiming to know for sure


Could have fooled me.

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You’re claiming to know for sure Mainieri made the right choices


No quite the opposite. I’ve said multiple times that none of us know how things are going to go. You’ve made predictions based off your “observations” that led you to believe Edwards can’t get a double play ball.
Posted by BayouBlogger
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:43 am to
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It’s easy to say what would have happened when the player wasn’t in so there’s no way to disprove it.


So you admit that you don’t know Mainieri made good choices then? You’re just guessing because it’s a win?
Posted by BayouBlogger
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:47 am to
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to believe Edwards can’t get a double play ball.


Not that he can’t, that he wasn’t the right player to rely on to induce a double play ball. You can throw a garbage pitch that ends up being hit into a double play. You can also throw what should be a home run ball that ends up being a double play. Doesn’t mean you induced it or you were more likely to than the other guy. In the moment, you can only choose based on likelihood. You’re trying to inject future knowledge into the time the decision was made.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:47 am to
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So you admit that you don’t know Mainieri made good choices then? You’re just guessing because it’s a win?


I think that his choices of when to switch pitchers were all fine. And I think you’re attempt to make a Les Miles comparison after we just won four games in a row to win a road regional is laughable.
Posted by BayouBlogger
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:48 am to
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Could have fooled me.


So could a toddler
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:49 am to
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You’re trying to inject future knowledge into the time the decision was made.


I am or you are?

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Not that he can’t, that he wasn’t the right player to rely on to induce a double play ball. You can throw a garbage pitch that ends up being hit into a double play.


Can’t rely on the guy with the lower ERA and fewer walks in more innings. I guess he could get lucky on a garbage pitch though, huh
Posted by BayouBlogger
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:49 am to
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Les Miles comparison after we just won four games


Les won 14 games in a row once. What is your point?
Posted by BayouBlogger
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:51 am to
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lower ERA and fewer walks


How many times did he pitch 5 innings and then come back 2 days later?
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3664 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:58 am to
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How many times did he pitch 5 innings and then come back 2 days later?


How many times did Hellmers take 21 days off and then all of a sudden throw relief for several innings? It’s the 5th game in four days. Of course people will have to pitch twice. The reality is we don’t know how someone is going to feel or throw until they get out there and do it. You wanted Fontenot to pitch three days in a row.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 5:00 am
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:58 am to
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Les won 14 games in a row once. What is your point?


Making direct comparisons between baseball and football are always stupid.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:59 am to
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So could a toddler


Says the name caller
Posted by BayouBlogger
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:59 am to
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I am or you are?


Given the fact that I had no idea how Edwards would do after pitching much longer than he’s accustomed to already this weekend, I didn’t want Hellmer taken out and Edwards put in. You and OP are the ones pretending you knew that was the right choice. I was skeptical and the results indicate I was right to be skeptical.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 5:00 am to
Haha okay you win the hindsight award
Posted by BayouBlogger
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 5:01 am to
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Says the name caller


You just called me a name caller
Posted by BayouBlogger
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 5:03 am to
That’s not hindsight, that’s foresight.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3664 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 5:03 am to
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I was right to be skeptical.


Cool. I’m skeptical of Fontenot throwing three days in a row and facing the same team that had a chance to beat him in the 9th the night before. I’m skeptical due to the fact that Fontenot doesn’t have as good of control or the wipeout breaking ball that Marceaux has. I guess my skepticism was right because the coach left Marceaux in and we won. Must have been the right choice. Good foresight on PM’s and my part.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 5:06 am
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3664 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 5:04 am to
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That’s not hindsight, that’s foresight.


How? You didn’t even know he was going to come in.
Posted by BayouBlogger
Left Coast
Member since Aug 2015
1025 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 5:05 am to
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Making direct comparisons between baseball and football are always stupid.


I would ask you to explain why, but I’d rather ask my niece to explain string theory.
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