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re: Which QB should start and/or play more vs WKU, and why?

Posted on 11/6/11 at 7:14 pm to
Posted by tigerpiss
BFE
Member since Sep 2009
56 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 7:14 pm to
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Our offense did nothing, absolutely nothing, with JJ in there.


Hehehe...LSU 9 - Alabama 6

Offense put special teams in position to kick field goals. Special teams kept Alabama with long fields. Defense held Alabama to two field goals.
Posted by summersausage
Member since Jul 2010
1821 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 7:30 pm to
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Your a jackass. If JJ becomes our starter/main QB, we will lose a game or two. We don't score enough with him at QB. Fact


You're an idiot. without JJ vs Alabama WE LOSE. Face it dude, Lee is a great guy but HE CAN NOT WIN THE BIG ONE. Sure everyone will bitch at me for saying this but JJ can handle the pressure of elite teams...Lee can't handle the pressure. It seems JJ just needs to graduate and get away so everybody can be happy in tigerland.
Posted by Templars
Member since Oct 2005
2970 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 7:31 pm to
I agree with that sentiment
Posted by FlyingTiger06
Bossier City, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1891 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 7:35 pm to
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Offense put special teams in position to kick field goals.


Actually, it was Mo Claiborne's interception that got us in position for the second FG and overtime rules that had us in position for the FG in OT even if we didn't gain a single yard.

JJ didn't make mistakes, but he was far from good last night. JL made some bad reads that got him in trouble. I think he was playing too tight and was pressing. He needs to remain the starter, get his confidence back, and learn to settle down in the big games. JJ should continue to see snaps, but not the majority of them. Oh, and we need to get rid of the play where we have JC Copeland in the backfield alongside JJ and we fake the read option to Copeland and then use him as a lead blocker for JJ. Who really thinks JJ is going to handoff to Copeland? That play, my friends, is totally predictable.
Posted by summersausage
Member since Jul 2010
1821 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 7:39 pm to
bottom line...Les Miles knows who can win the game when the game is on the line. We all saw it last night on the biggest stage other than the NCG.
Posted by haggard79
Member since Jan 2008
530 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 7:44 pm to
Yea cause Jarrett Lee hasnt done this. Get JJs balls out of your mouth.
Posted by GR CHAMP
Member since Dec 2006
726 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 7:51 pm to
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Your a jackass. If JJ becomes our starter/main QB, we will lose a game or two.



We are lucky that JJ didn't play last night !
Posted by real
Dixieland
Member since Oct 2007
14027 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 7:51 pm to























Keep it likr its been, Lee had an off night ,it happens,JJ showed why we need him also. So keep it about 50/50 yil we get up enough to let Mett play.






Posted by Tigerpastor
Greenwood, Indiana
Member since Oct 2010
111 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 7:55 pm to
Start JL. Just because JL has a bad game, why switch things up? We didn't switch it up last year just because JJ had a bad game or two, or three. I say Lee should start and JJ should be worked into the game as per usual. JL has earned the job and two INT's should not cause him to lose it. It was good that JJ was able to give us a spark but IMO JL remains the starter.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36916 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 7:58 pm to
Lee without question.



I can't wait till next year when we have a complete package playing QB and can actually watch a QB run the machine from start to finish. A QB needs to find a groove and stay in it. We haven't seen that in a few years except for the first 4 games of this year.
Posted by Summer of George
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
5995 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 7:59 pm to
Lee. We only needed JJ to be bama.
Posted by summersausage
Member since Jul 2010
1821 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:02 pm to
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Yea cause Jarrett Lee hasnt done this. Get JJs balls out of your mouth.


Very sorry. Lee is awesome. Wish he would have stayed in the whole game. All of you would be bitching for a rematch.
Posted by Gtiger9757
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
8730 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:02 pm to
Lee should start and play most of the first half and rebuild his confidence. Let JJ come in under some situational snaps. I would love to see Mett play the entire 2nd half. Let him throw a good bit. He needs experience.
Posted by thekingfish225
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
497 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:07 pm to
I think you should start
Posted by TigerCard
Cleveland, OH
Member since Nov 2009
894 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:40 pm to
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the guy has been nails all year long. He messed up twice last night and our HC bailed out on him. Our offense did nothing, absolutely nothing, with JJ in there.


I would disagree on several counts. I think the primary reason Lee didn't get back in is that Miles decided that the game didn't play to his strengths. In other words, the interceptions weren't the cause of him getting pulled, but a symptom of the larger problem, i.e. Bama's coverage didn't give Lee and our receivers any space at all. (No one smothers a passing attack like Saban's D.) And, the power running game wasn't getting any traction, which added to the problems. JJ was able to spread the field laterally (utilizing Ford's speed to good effect) and he was able to extend a couple of drives with his legs. While this didn't result in any TDs, it did shift field position by 10-20 yards on occasion (crucial in a game like this!), where we might well have suffered a lot more 3-and-outs if Lee had been in, not because he's not a good QB, but because we were playing into Bama's defensive strength with him in there, something Miles realized pretty quickly. And, remember, it was JJ who drove us on our only sustained drive of the night, at the end of the first half. If I remember correctly, that's the only time either team got to within the 10 yard line until overtime.

Going forward, I agree with those who say that Lee should start and get plenty of work this week, if for nothing else, then to get his confidence back. We'll need both QBs down the stretch, and I suspect that Les will play one or the other depending on what the D gives him.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:47 pm to
the rest of the season is riding on JJ, but I would start Lee just to make sure he knows the staff has confidence in him should JJ get hurt...
Posted by TigerBrewdaddy
Shreveport LA
Member since Oct 2010
584 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:50 pm to
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I would disagree on several counts. I think the primary reason Lee didn't get back in is that Miles decided that the game didn't play to his strengths. In other words, the interceptions weren't the cause of him getting pulled, but a symptom of the larger problem, i.e. Bama's coverage didn't give Lee and our receivers any space at all. (No one smothers a passing attack like Saban's D.) And, the power running game wasn't getting any traction, which added to the problems. JJ was able to spread the field laterally (utilizing Ford's speed to good effect) and he was able to extend a couple of drives with his legs. While this didn't result in any TDs, it did shift field position by 10-20 yards on occasion (crucial in a game like this!), where we might well have suffered a lot more 3-and-outs if Lee had been in, not because he's not a good QB, but because we were playing into Bama's defensive strength with him in there, something Miles realized pretty quickly. And, remember, it was JJ who drove us on our only sustained drive of the night, at the end of the first half. If I remember correctly, that's the only time either team got to within the 10 yard line until overtime. Going forward, I agree with those who say that Lee should start and get plenty of work this week, if for nothing else, then to get his confidence back. We'll need both QBs down the stretch, and I suspect that Les will play one or the other depending on what the D gives him.


This +100
Posted by TIsuGGER
Member since Apr 2009
2321 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:57 pm to
One FG was due to Mo's int.

The other was busted coverage on RS. That happens with Lee and it's a TD. And therefore no need for OT.

Both QBs were not very good. No need to change the starter.

Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
15613 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 8:59 pm to
Miles will let JL+JJ combine for about 20 passes. They will never get to work on their passing game.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 9:03 pm to
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I think the primary reason Lee didn't get back in is that Miles decided that the game didn't play to his strengths.


the primary reason is Miles wanted to win...
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