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re: Where is Frank Herron, Quantavis Leslie, and DeSean Smith???

Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:49 pm to
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Leslie - can't learn the playbook


do you know for a fact that he can't learn the playbook, or at least have a "source" telling you that? it looks like what really set him back - and this may be physically as much as getting up to speed in the scheme - is missing the spring. we had 4 experienced WRs here, and Dural went thru spring as well. dude got here late and weighs 175.
Posted by peopleschamp
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
6576 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 3:55 pm to
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Smith isn't a good enough blocker to get more snaps.

I figured someone would post this. It may be true that Smith isn't a good blocker but that is true of many pass catching tight ends. I was hopeful when we got Cam that LSU would learn to utilize the tight end more effectively. The entire position (Gordon, Dickson, Smith) is averaging less than 1 catch per game for a total of 9 catches for the season. Smith is dangerous and could be such a mismatch for opposing defense. His pass catching, speed, and size can put DBs and linebackers at a disadvantage depending on the situation. If we don't learn to use special athletes like Smith I fear those type of kids might not come to LSU anymore. 1 catch for Smith is not enough. Even if he is used situationally Smith should have made some impact this year. The problem is none of our tight ends made any impact.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16056 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 4:11 pm to
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Where is Frank Herron, Quantavis Leslie, and DeSean Smith???


Leslie, better recievers in front of him. Not as good as advertised.

Smith, not physically ready. Needs to get moffitized. Dickson is a better fit as the pass catching TE right now.

Herron, maybe next year
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18605 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 4:19 pm to
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Smith is dangerous and could be such a mismatch for opposing defense.
I bet Smith was pissed watching OJ Howard race down the field. CLM talks a good game, but when the stage gets bigger, the belt tightens up. Early in the season the play calling was wide open. As it got to the SEC schedule, the toss dive, and heavy offensive packages returned. I have never seen Cam Cameron run a toss dive in all my life. Trying to protect the defense by playing ball control offense hurt his team. He should have slung that pill all across the yard. Smith could have helped, but come spring ball, he'll talk about how they will utilize the mismatches...yea, all that damn coach talk.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79637 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 4:24 pm to
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I figured someone would post this. It may be true that Smith isn't a good blocker but that is true of many pass catching tight ends. I was hopeful when we got Cam that LSU would learn to utilize the tight end more effectively. The entire position (Gordon, Dickson, Smith) is averaging less than 1 catch per game for a total of 9 catches for the season. Smith is dangerous and could be such a mismatch for opposing defense. His pass catching, speed, and size can put DBs and linebackers at a disadvantage depending on the situation. If we don't learn to use special athletes like Smith I fear those type of kids might not come to LSU anymore. 1 catch for Smith is not enough. Even if he is used situationally Smith should have made some impact this year. The problem is none of our tight ends made any impact.


Theyve been open, but Mett just has been throwing to beckham and landry. Its not like those are the only 2 guys that we send down field to catch the ball. And i think the coaches would rather the qb check down to other guys than throwing picks. They arent coaching him to throw to a double covered receiver.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79637 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 4:26 pm to
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He should have slung that pill all across the yard. Smith could have helped, but come spring ball, he'll talk about how they will utilize the mismatches...yea, all that damn coach talk.


You need to be able to run. the toss dive was our most effective run play last saturday. Hills longest runs of his career came off the toss dive. Cam has run the toss dive. Jimbo fisher runs the toss dive. It's not uncommon and not only something Les miles calls.
This post was edited on 11/14/13 at 4:27 pm
Posted by BASED
yamamma the OG
Member since May 2012
3354 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 4:34 pm to
Leslie needed a year to add bulk/strength. He has still seen the field in mop up duty.

Smith is gonna be a good TE and has a ton of talent but honestly our passing game this year has consisted of two players, neither of which are TEs.

Herron got hurt right before coming to LSU and it set him back in his conditioning. He will redshirt.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 4:36 pm to
Herron = came in overweight due to injury needs awhile to shed it

Leslie = came in undersized and wasn't as impressive as probably thought coming out of JUCO

Desean Smith = we don't use TEs
This post was edited on 11/14/13 at 4:37 pm
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
45417 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 4:38 pm to
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Desean Smith = we don't use TEs



lol, no our QB just doesn't throw to em much. Mett actually threw to Smith early in the TCU game in the end zone, but TCU made a good play on the ball iirc. as other said, he's back down the depth chart with Dickson back.
Posted by TG
Metairie
Member since Sep 2004
3129 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 5:29 pm to
I've been waiting to see Frank Herron all season. If you have a 5-star player, it doesn't may sense to hold him back. As it now appears in college football, that you have someone for 3 years at best. Play the man!
Posted by StadiumDormRat'72
BR,LA
Member since Sep 2012
2942 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 6:49 pm to
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Between the "a" and the "t".


MOM??? I didn't know you posted here!
Posted by lil 7thward
ATL
Member since Jan 2012
2667 posts
Posted on 11/14/13 at 8:59 pm to
They're probably adjusting to SEC football
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