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When you are a head coach without substantial X-and-O acumen

Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:21 pm
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:21 pm
Yahoo Sports "LSU coach Ed Orgeron made his name as a defensive line coach. But he’s spent little time running a defense, as his career has been hallmarked as more of a recruiter and motivator than an overall tactician. When you are a head coach without substantial X-and-O acumen that is suddenly confronted with both a gaping talent deficit and an established schematic disadvantage, it could be a long season."

Yeh, it's Yahoo, unfortunately, there's no way to ignore the truth.

College FootballTakeaways LINK

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52794 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:23 pm to
So like Dabo?
Posted by tigerfan63
cenla.
Member since Aug 2006
1690 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:28 pm to
Its obvious O did not try and learn anything from Aranda how to scheme a defense.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72734 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:31 pm to
me and others said this from the start. O did not have the resume nor had he coached one side of the ball. BUT, since miles was nothing special either as a OC at okie lite and running shite his way starting in 2010....we all figured if O just let the DC and OC do their thing UNLIKE miles with his OC's we would be fine..........albeit it MIGHT be tough to sustain with guys leaving OR not panning out.........

jimbo, CUM, malzahn, chizik, muschamp,saban, kiffin, leach, etc all can call 1 side of the ball.

O got us through it after he and canadas irreconcilable differences. but it still was a good hire. he got lucky with brady to bail him out. another good hire. we are running similar offense to last year. NFW O will get away from a proven system that won him a natty. linehan is not as bad as some are portraying and neither is BO.

whilst past performance is not indicative of future results and this is a what have you done for me lately game...let's see what happens.


Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
71848 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:33 pm to
We don’t have a gaping talent deficiency

Pete Thamel is a cock sucking roach
Posted by Byrdybyrd05
Member since Nov 2014
25715 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:33 pm to
This was the main reason I was against hiring him as head coach.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
71848 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

jimbo, CUM, malzahn, chizik, muschamp,saban, kiffin, leach, etc all can call 1 side of the ball.


All but 2 on that list are meh

Why doesn’t Jimbo get the same flak for his lighting in a bottle season with Jameis Winston?
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 4:35 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52794 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

We don’t have a gaping talent deficiency


Compared to a lot of LSU teams, yes.

Most of ours starters come from the 2018 recruiting class which was ranked 15th with players like Chase included.

Then you have a bunch of inexperienced freshmen and sophomores and some transfers sprinkled in.
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

Why doesn’t Jimbo get the same flak for his lighting in a bottle season with Jameis Winston?


Jimbo just beat a legit top 5 Fla team, going to be a looooong season for LSU and Coach O.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
71848 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:40 pm to
How about compared to the teams we’re playing?

LSU is among the most talented teams every year so it’s not like that’s a huge knock of we’re slightly below par this year
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
71848 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

Jimbo just beat a legit top 5 Fla team, going to be a looooong season for LSU and Coach O.


After squeaking by Vanderbilt and getting his doors blown off by Alabama

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52794 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

LSU is among the most talented teams every year so it’s not like that’s a huge knock of we’re slightly below par this year


Talent on paper isnt shite.

By that token, Georgia should win a championship every year.

That said, our 2018 class was a lot closer to State than Georgia.
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 4:42 pm
Posted by BlackAngus
350 Sonic Blvd
Member since Jan 2020
1964 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:42 pm to
Plenty of coaches without Xs and Os have succeeded in the NFL and NCAA.
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

LSU is among the most talented teams every year so it’s not like that’s a huge knock off we’re slightly below par this year


Talent on paper isnt shite.

By that token, Georgia should win a championship every year.


There's absolutely no reason for LSU's defense to be shite show. Accountability matters.
Posted by CottonWasKing
4,8,15,16,23,42
Member since Jun 2011
28649 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:46 pm to
quote:

Jimbo just beat a legit top 5 Fla team, going to be a looooong season for LSU and Coach O.



O beat Florida and Auburn in 2017 with Danny Elton at qb. He beat a top 5 Georgia team in 2018.

O has won big games outside of 2019 but y’all don’t wanna hear that.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52794 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:46 pm to
No doubt, I dont think Pelini is on the staff in 2021.

But that wasnt the question.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
71848 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:54 pm to
That’s not relevant to the discussion at hand. You said this LSU team is less talented that previous LSU teams, which may be true. But that doesn’t matter.

Fact is, this is a lazy narrative from a rat frick journalist
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46626 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

beat Florida and Auburn in 2017 with Danny Elton


UF was 4-7 in 2017 and auburn finished with 4 losses.

Danny Etling was drafted.
before 2019 O was 2-6 vs p5 teams that finished with 4 or less losses
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 5:09 pm
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