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re: When does a college QB become experienced?
Posted on 10/21/09 at 4:38 pm to cajunfriar
Posted on 10/21/09 at 4:38 pm to cajunfriar
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Yes, he did not RS but JJ has started 8 games and was the #1 QB and had all the reps since mid November of 2008.
So how many games do you need until the experience excuse can no longer be used?
Obviously it's a case by case issue but here are a few Tigers who played effectively from their first year of eligibility. Nelson Stokley,Bert Jones,Mike Miley, Tommy Hodson, Herb Tyler,and Jamarcus Russell. Others who did not have the opportunity to play right away but were effective from the first opportunity were, Mike Hillman, Paul Lyons, Alan Risher, Jeff Wickersham, Rohan Davey, Matt Flynn, and Perrilloux. Honestly I feel that JL, JJ and Hatch all did o.k. when you consider all the factors involved, horrid defense last year, questionable play-calling both years, poor o-line play this year etc. I still believe the best avenue to success for this year's team would be to use the skills of all three q.b.'s on a situational basis, regardless of who the coaches deem "number one". Of course they should know best but we all have the right to our opinions. Certainly it seems the offense can only go up from here. Whether it does and how quickly it does remain to be seen. Let's hope it starts Saturday.
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Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:07 pm to Hot Carl
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white skin
Nice. By 0-2 I meant Lee and Jefferson. Lee is white.
By "it" I mean the intangibles that separate a good HS QB from a good college QB. Kyle Wright, for example, had all of the measurables but lacked "it." See also, Brock Berlin.
Whereas a Chase Daniel wasn't wowing anyone with his arm or build or speed but had "it."
Vince Young had "it" in college; not so much in the NFL.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 5:48 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Some people are confusing age with experience. If you are not taking snaps with the starters in practice and have little game experience, then you are not "experienced.
If you have played the most part of 7-8 games, you are experienced.
Somebody gets it. Thank you.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 6:15 pm to deathvalleyrox27
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Michigan - true fresh - doing well
Miami- true fresh doing well
USC - true fresh - doing well
Lee got assraped by the fans and he was a true fresh last year!! unreal to gice JJ a pass!
Michigan has lost 2 games and the fresh was pulled after going 2-17 in one of his games.
Jacory Harris is a sophomore
Matt Barkely is doing well.
If we used this standard to judge jj. Well we should apply the same standards to J. Lee who was a reshirt freshman last year. J. Lee compared to Colt Mccoy and Sam Bradford they were lights out as RS Freshman. Lee had his oppurtunity and imploded. The same reasonings for benching JJ is the same reasonings to bench lee if you used that illogical approach.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 6:18 pm to ready4something
Lee had his oppurtunity and imploded. The same reasonings for benching JJ is the same reasonings to bench lee if you used that illogical approach.
Who advocates benching? Hell, just sit the kid a couple of series, may save his career. He is regressing. Last two games, 0 td's, 3 ints, one in the end zone.
Put Lee, Garrett, hell....McCartney in for a couple of series and let JJ examine it from the sidelines, talk to the OC a bit.
Who advocates benching? Hell, just sit the kid a couple of series, may save his career. He is regressing. Last two games, 0 td's, 3 ints, one in the end zone.
Put Lee, Garrett, hell....McCartney in for a couple of series and let JJ examine it from the sidelines, talk to the OC a bit.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 6:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Put Lee, Garrett, hell....McCartney in for a couple of series and let JJ examine it from the sidelines, talk to the OC a bit.
How many times last year did we hear the sideline reporter talking about J. Lee throwing a pick 6 or any int and standing on the sidelines talking to no one. What makes you think crowton is going to start talking to the oc? Crowton hasn't been on the sidelines since he got to lsu.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 6:35 pm to ready4something
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How many times last year did we hear the sideline reporter talking about J. Lee throwing a pick 6 or any int and standing on the sidelines talking to no one. What makes you think crowton is going to start talking to the oc? Crowton hasn't been on the sidelines since he got to lsu.
I don't give a rat sass what he does on the sideline. If the regression continues he will be a total basket case. Let JL have a series a half, RS a few touches and JJ can run it the rest of the time.....mainly between the 20's.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 6:50 pm to ready4something
Jacorrey Harris saw time last year as a true freshman The coaching staff felt a NEED to get their QB some game time experience. He and JJ are from the same class obviously, yet he is MUCH improved compared to JJ.
Last year our coaching staff did not feel the NEED to get JJ much experience which is the reason for the product we have at QB.
It was pretty obvious after the UF game what kinda season we were going to have but Miles chose to stick with JL until the injury.
I'm happy for the Harris kid but it pisses me off knowing that he and JJ are from the same class. He looks light years ahead of JJ. He is actually WINNING game for Miami against a pretty tough schedule so far this season.
Last year our coaching staff did not feel the NEED to get JJ much experience which is the reason for the product we have at QB.
It was pretty obvious after the UF game what kinda season we were going to have but Miles chose to stick with JL until the injury.
I'm happy for the Harris kid but it pisses me off knowing that he and JJ are from the same class. He looks light years ahead of JJ. He is actually WINNING game for Miami against a pretty tough schedule so far this season.
Posted on 10/21/09 at 6:56 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I don't give a rat sass what he does on the sideline. If the regression continues he will be a total basket case.
that's the biggest issue and why it irks me that the simpletons see this as a Lee vs. Jefferson thing. We really don't want to be burning out young QB's every year or we'll never progress. If something doesn't change, I'd expect a 4 man battle for the QB spot in the spring. Maybe the light comes on for Jefferson, but by now the D coordinators have enough info on him to scheme in order to expose his weaknesses.
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