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re: What’s with the Bama Bias on the SEC Rant?

Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:24 am to
Posted by Draco Malfoy
Member since Mar 2024
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:24 am to
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Gumps are tied with OSU as favorites to win it all.


Means nothing this early.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:34 am to
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. I think DeBoer will never win a title there and people over there act like that’s a crazy prediction.


Because, while it may not be a crazy prediction, it’s not well founded.

We all dislike, or even hate Bama, but take off the P&G glasses and be objective.

Alabama is a top tier, premium program that has a booster organization and foundation second to none. Their fanbase is unlike any other fanbase in that they don’t want championships, they expect and demand them. They will do literally anything, and everything, to win unlike most fanbases.

DeBoer is a damn good coach. Damn good. He is a highly driven coach who is in the prime of life. He is recruiting at a level that Saban did this year.

Alabama isn’t going away no matter how many people hope and wish they do with Saban gone.


Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:40 am to
The recruiting was the big question and he seems to be doing well there

Several Washington fans said to get used to the second half of the UGA game because that was a common occurrence while he was at UW

It’s interesting that if UGA would not have called a terrible play and Beck throw a terrible pass this thread would be going much differently

Will be interesting to see play out
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 10:42 am
Posted by Draco Malfoy
Member since Mar 2024
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:45 am to
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Because, while it may not be a crazy prediction, it’s not well founded. We all dislike, or even hate Bama, but take off the P&G glasses and be objective.


Saban had one championship his last his last six years. Why is it not well founded that I think DeBoer won’t win one?
Posted by Draco Malfoy
Member since Mar 2024
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:46 am to
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Several Washington fans said to get used to the second half of the UGA game because that was a common occurrence while he was at UW It’s interesting that if UGA would not have called a terrible play and Beck throw a terrible pass this thread would be going much differently Will be interesting to see play out


Or if they called that obvious PI at the end. Georgia would still be favored neutral site according to Vegas
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49520 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:57 am to
I know Beck gets a lot of the blame for going down 28-0 but I still have no idea what UGAs defense was attempting to do in the first half

That looked every bit as bad as any LSU defensive half last season
Posted by Pas Bon
Galveston County, TX
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/2/24 at 12:00 pm to
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Dark place over there


I have been to this place. It smells of old milk.
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 12:03 pm
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
5257 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 12:10 pm to
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Saban had one championship his last his last six years. Why is it not well founded that I think DeBoer won’t win one?


Because… if LSU can win National Championships with morons like Miles and O, it clearly demonstrates the huge, built in advantages LSU has. Those same advantages, plus a few additional ones, Bama has. DeBoer is a much better coach than miles & O. It’s very likely DeBoer wins one at Bama just as it’s likely Kelly wins one here. Plus… DeBoer is significantly younger than Kelly, another advantage.
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
1830 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:05 pm to
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I expect LSU to 100% expose their secondary.


Completely agree, our offense can go toe to toe with anybody

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That will leave everybody else on an island. Will it work? Who knows, what i do know is that LSU will make that game close til the end.


Comes down to the performance of the safeties, they're clearly our weakest link. Agree with you on the last point, Tiger Stadium will probably carry us in some ways that game to make it close like in 2014 when Jennings was the QB and we almost pulled the stunner at home.
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 9:29 pm
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
1830 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:07 pm to
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Because he hasn't done ANYTHING. Did you know even though they lost a ton of talent after Saban left, they are still technically the most talented team in the country? When people talk about Day being born on 3rd base it is NOTHING compared to where Deboer is. Day actually had to help build Ohio St before he took over. Hell, Saban is still hanging around Bama and on payroll. Their recruiting class doesn't have jackshit to do with Deboer either.


This team isn't the product of Deboer. Like i told somebody after he got hired, it's going to be okay his first year or two, but when he has to build and maintain the program itself, you'll see the problems suface.


I can see that, it's the same situation with Duke and Coach K. Coach K and Saban are still basically shadow coaching the team behind the scenes when it comes to recruiting and being ambassador for their respective schools (Saban being more out in the public moonlighting for College Gameday each Saturday then still somehow finding the time to be present for Bama games). Will be interesting to see when DeBoer becomes THE MAN by himself at Bama.
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 9:54 pm
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
1830 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:11 pm to
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Because, while it may not be a crazy prediction, it’s not well founded.

We all dislike, or even hate Bama, but take off the P&G glasses and be objective.

Alabama is a top tier, premium program that has a booster organization and foundation second to none. Their fanbase is unlike any other fanbase in that they don’t want championships, they expect and demand them. They will do literally anything, and everything, to win unlike most fanbases.

DeBoer is a damn good coach. Damn good. He is a highly driven coach who is in the prime of life. He is recruiting at a level that Saban did this year.

Alabama isn’t going away no matter how many people hope and wish they do with Saban gone.


These are all facts unfortunately with how much I want to see Bama burn. Will it translate to 6 natties in 12 seasons though? That is the question, that's hard to do no matter how stacked your talent is and all the parity now. Saban is THE GOAT for a reason and, like one poster stated, only won 1 natty (Covid-affected year) his last 6 years coaching the program. 5 natties from 2009-18 is dominance and going to the playoff damn near every year as well is dynastic too.

Imagine if 4th and 31 didn't happen and Auburn won that game, how different life in the SEC would be this season had Saban still retired and Bama lost Ryan Williams to Auburn. Butterfly Effect stuff.
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 9:42 pm
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
1830 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:14 pm to
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Alabama is a top tier, premium program that has a booster organization and foundation second to none.


Pre-Saban, it was fine and all and the true blue people were there as they'd been all along but it really supercharged when Saban restarted the dynasty and suddenly everybody and their mom went to Alabama for college, from the north, west all those places. DeBoer inherited a VERY stable and supportive situation better than most programs. Whoever replaces Kirby will probably get that too at UGA.
Posted by cap1cap
Member since Sep 2009
16 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:17 pm to
Bamatards ??
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
1830 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:26 pm to
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Because… if LSU can win National Championships with morons like Miles and O, it clearly demonstrates the huge, built in advantages LSU has.


Largely due to what Saban and his LSU coaching staff built and instilled into the football culture from 2000-04

Before Saban roped off the state of Louisiana for recruiting, we were consistently losing top flight talent to schools like Florida State, Notre Dame, Florida, Tennessee, Texas, etc. It was BAD for LSU football at that time.
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 9:46 pm
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
1830 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:49 pm to
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It’s very likely DeBoer wins one at Bama just as it’s likely Kelly wins one here.


If LSU could just win their damn opening game against a good opponent , Bama never had this issue with their opening games against teams like USC and Miami under Saban. It's infuriating.
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
1830 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 9:51 pm to
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Alabama is a top tier, premium program that has a booster organization and foundation second to none. Their fanbase is unlike any other fanbase in that they don’t want championships, they expect and demand them.


I love how Notre Dame fans pretend to be this nowadays but Bama fans legit are this, they perceive themselves as the elite of the elite and act like it 24/7. If you can walk the walk, you can talk the talk and be obnoxious AF.
This post was edited on 10/2/24 at 9:56 pm
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
11920 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 10:41 pm to
Didn’t you know? The entire football season is already figured out in the first month according to the rant. Don’t know why we should even play another game. While the Tigers just sit quietly waiting for their chance to pounce.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 10/3/24 at 12:42 am to
REC
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49520 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 6:50 pm to
The SEC Rant is safe again
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