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What’s a more budget friendly way to structure a contract...
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:24 pm
While still being attractive to potential suitors? Can we (or do we ever) include bonuses for post season success? I have no idea if that’s even a thing.
I highly doubt we give a contract even half as big as Pelini’s to the next guy, nor do I think it would all be guaranteed. Seems like incentivizing it would be cool.
I highly doubt we give a contract even half as big as Pelini’s to the next guy, nor do I think it would all be guaranteed. Seems like incentivizing it would be cool.
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 1:26 pm
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:28 pm to MJforPrez
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Can we (or do we ever) include bonuses for post season success?
It’s done regularly.
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Seems like incentivizing it would be cool.
I agree, particularly with Covid budget restraints. Make the base salary smaller with more incentives upfront, and slowly flip that over the life of the contract. Also, eliminate or GREATLY reduce any buyout.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:30 pm to MJforPrez
LSU is the attractive part
Performance bonuses
Recruiting bonuses
Millions of ways without a billion dollar buyout
Performance bonuses
Recruiting bonuses
Millions of ways without a billion dollar buyout
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:30 pm to MJforPrez
Every coaches contract has those types of incentives for the most part.
There’s too much open competition for these coaches, there’s not gonna be a way to get a top flight guy and go cheap
That doesn’t mean there aren’t good options that don’t cost 2 mil, but if it’s a big name that people want, it’s not gonna be cheap
There’s too much open competition for these coaches, there’s not gonna be a way to get a top flight guy and go cheap
That doesn’t mean there aren’t good options that don’t cost 2 mil, but if it’s a big name that people want, it’s not gonna be cheap
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:31 pm to Tshiz
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Millions of ways without a billion dollar buyout
No coach with any leverage is coming here without a buyout when we just cleaned house 1 season after having the greatest season of all time
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:42 pm to wildtigercat93
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No coach with any leverage is coming here without a buyout when we just cleaned house 1 season after having the greatest season of all time
Exactly. I’m not sure this gig is as attractive as a lot of LSU fans have convinced themselves it is. Not for any of the guys you KNOW will be good, because they all have jobs right now where they are having success. Now, there will be a lot of young, unproven guys who would jump at it. But for an established one to make a move knowing it may only be for a year, we’re gonna have to at least pay market value. Likely more.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 1:46 pm to MJforPrez
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While still being attractive to potential suitors
Oh I can help you there.
In a year where Pelini had limited players to field a defense that some got ultra woke, you don’t fire him and give him a buyout after 10 months.
You let him have one more year with 40 scholarship players to deal with.....not 27.
Firing him is NOT how you attract potential DCs that know they have a short leash coming in.
The list is culled before the agents know.
That was stupid and expensive.
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:28 pm to MJforPrez
There is nothing wrong with the structure of recent contracts. The problem is we are over-compensating people. When Orgeron won the national championship he still...
...was not in demand as a head coach
...required two coordinators compensated by over $1 million above market.
Orgeron was overpaid initially as head coach. He did not merit $3.5 millio, or whatever it was. After winning the championship, his compensation should have been left as it was. He got some incentives. Maybe they should have enriched those. But no big increase, or extension, was merited.
...was not in demand as a head coach
...required two coordinators compensated by over $1 million above market.
Orgeron was overpaid initially as head coach. He did not merit $3.5 millio, or whatever it was. After winning the championship, his compensation should have been left as it was. He got some incentives. Maybe they should have enriched those. But no big increase, or extension, was merited.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:32 pm to MJforPrez
we have already set the salary standard for coordinators north of 2 mil. No top coordinator will come for less and his agent will ensure he gets what Pelini got or close to it. A young guy would be the only way we can go "cheap"
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:34 pm to MJforPrez
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I highly doubt we give a contract even half as big as Pelini’s to the next guy, nor do I think it would all be guaranteed. Seems like incentivizing it would be cool.
The problem with incentivizing contracts and removing guarantees is that your competitors won't and you'll never hire anyone you want to. Because the coach in question can get a better deal elsewhere and be foolish to accept your offer.
Like it or not, that's what the market requires.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:36 pm to MJforPrez
Every coach knows they are going to get fired at some point...
So, why take a job that comes with a 2 or 3 year contract, without some financial guarantees built in?
It's really hard to lure away big time coaches without some financial protection for them, if it doesn't work out.
So, why take a job that comes with a 2 or 3 year contract, without some financial guarantees built in?
It's really hard to lure away big time coaches without some financial protection for them, if it doesn't work out.
Posted on 12/22/20 at 2:38 pm to Penrod
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Orgeron was overpaid initially as head coach. He did not merit $3.5 millio,
he was ranked about 40th in cfbPosted on 12/22/20 at 3:26 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:And his performance, to that point, was about 120th.
he was ranked about 40th in cfb
Posted on 12/22/20 at 3:50 pm to MJforPrez
Performance bonuses would be better than handing out raises. To keep guys like Brady and Aranda you give raises. O should have just gotten a fat arse bonus for 2019, not a raise.
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 3:52 pm
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