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re: What will be your reaction if RJ Jackson

Posted on 7/31/09 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by MyNadsitch
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Posted on 7/31/09 at 2:34 pm to
Josh the senior torch tide guy. Didnt play his senior year.
Posted by BT
North La
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Posted on 7/31/09 at 2:42 pm to
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same RJ Jackson he's always looked like?


which is?
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
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Posted on 7/31/09 at 3:54 pm to
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you act like certain biases can't exist with a human coaching staff
That wrong. That has nothing to do with the issue here. What you are suggesting is a bias that hurts the success of the program, and one that is almost 100% consistent, and one that leads to devastating mistakes that any 3rd grade PE class could easily identify as bad moves. What we are suggesting is that a coach that is subject to biases such as that has virtually zero chance of ever winning a single game at the Div. I college level.

You have claimed that there is absolutely zero chance that Jacob Hester was the better choice to play RB than Keiland Williams at any point ever, and that it was obvious to anyone with any knowlege of football whatsoever. And the suggestion that a coach that makes blunders equivalent to seasoning their steak with dogshit would achieve the level of success that Coach Miles has is absurd.

What you cannot accept is that you are wrong about football. There are times when you are absolutely certain to the core of your being that you know you are right, and yet you are wrong. It happens, because you are not an expert at football and do not have access to the years of training and experience involved in the highest levels of the game. Coach Miles is. And while that does not mean he is never wrong, it means that no matter what, he is ALWAYS far more likely to be right in every single situation than you are. So if he has made mistakes, it is almost certainly going to be due to factors far beyond your ability to discern them. Because if he was making all the mistakes you claim he was making, coaches like Saban, Meyer, Fulmer, Tuberville, Weiss, Tressel, Nutt, etc., would NEVER be beaten by him.

I know you have a lot of trouble accepting that because you have so much invested in your image as an "expert" on football, but until you simply accept that you can be wrong and Miles can be right for reasons you cannot even understand, you will continue to make yourself look foolish with claims that you know more about coaching than Miles (which any claim to have identified the cause and correction of a continued "mistake" by definition is).

Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:06 pm to
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he does it because he honestly feels like it gives LSU the best chance of winning. You may disagree with that
i do disagree with it
You keep making this claim, and yet you never offer any explaination for why Miles would jeapardize his extremely well-paying job and amazingly successful career by deliberately making decisions that do not give LSU the best chance of winning. For what reason is he deliberately sabotaging the success of his team? And better yet, how has a guy who has handicapped himself with a desire to hurt his teams' chances of success managed to achieve so much success in his career? Do you honestly believe he is so much better of a coach than anyone else in the game that he has accomplished all that he has: National Championship, turning around OSU, 3 straight 11-win seasons, etc.; all while not even really trying to give his team the best chance to win? That's just crazy.

Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:12 pm to
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play on the field still trumps all to me
And how exactly do you make a decision based on "play on the field" before the player has set foot on the field?

And if "play on the field" trumps all, would you have bumped Bowe, Davis and Doucet down the depth chart in '06? Brandon Lafell started off catching a TD on every play he was in the game. Should we have moved him immediately ahead of the big three at that point?

Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12533 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 4:22 pm to
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and common sense would dictate that les miles, while may be a good person and overall good coach, is not perfect, and has made mistakes in his 4 years of coaching at LSU
Right. He can't detect talent, he can't hire assistants, he can't call plays and he can't recruit. But he's "may be" an "overall good coach."

Three straight 11+ win seasons, an SEC Championship and a National Championship, four straight decisive bowl wins, and he "may be" an "overall good coach."

You people are hilarious.

Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81329 posts
Posted on 7/31/09 at 6:05 pm to
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Three straight 11+ win seasons


0 straight
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/26/09 at 8:04 am to
hmmm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/26/09 at 8:12 am to
did i miss news about RJ?
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/26/09 at 8:13 am to
nope
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32738 posts
Posted on 8/26/09 at 8:14 am to
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Three straight 11+ win seasons, an SEC Championship and a National Championship, four straight decisive bowl wins, and he "may be" an "overall good coach."
He didn't do it "the way they would have done it", that's why they are dismissing his accomplishments. Miles is unorthodox to be sure, but he gets results.

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You people are hilarious.
That's being kind, some of them are downright scary. I think they are the same ones that are yelling on TV with their conspiracy theories.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/26/09 at 8:16 am to
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Miles is unorthodox to be sure,

he's not really that unorthodox
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/26/09 at 8:19 am to
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he's not really that unorthodox


ok

what's orthodox in regards to a coach?
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32738 posts
Posted on 8/26/09 at 8:19 am to
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Yeah, he might not start in the first few games, but keep in mind that Terrance Toliver got some pretty decent playing time at the start of his freshman season, and there were more experienced receivers on the 2007 team. Also, Toliver was probably not as hard-working or as developed as Rueben.
I agree, I am picking on the word "start". No doubt these freshmen are going to see playing time, but I think Miles sticks with the veterans (don't know about RJ Jackson starting, but certainly one of the other upperclassmen), then the freshmen coming in and getting some quality PT.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32738 posts
Posted on 8/26/09 at 8:20 am to
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he's not really that unorthodox
Yes, he is. And that's the itch you can't seem to scratch.
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/26/09 at 8:20 am to
it's going to be interesting to see if randle starts over chris mitchell and RJ jackson
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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451907 posts
Posted on 8/26/09 at 8:22 am to
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Yes, he is.

not really

i made a thread about it to discuss
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