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re: What makes one a "Miles Hater"?

Posted on 11/10/09 at 10:26 pm to
Posted by dreaux
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 10:26 pm to
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I agree with mbt, He's just not what LSU needs. To win the NC year in and year out the team needs to be meaner and nastier. Thats not Miles nature.
do you just realized what you typed???

the days of florida state running over everyone, bear bryant hogging the talent, nebraska in the glory days are all but gone.

parity is here to stay. and if any of you tards think lsu can get a coach to win a nc every five years, you need to go to rehab.

got news for you, there is ALOT of other teams that have a say in who wants a nc. Tenn, arky, auburn, bama, florida, are all doing everything they can to get one.

SOme of you want barry switzer.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 10:27 pm to
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Does the belief that LSU would enjoy more success against Alabama and Florida under another coach make one a "hater"?


Define more success? You can not on the one hand argue Saban/Meyer are great coaches and on the other argue LSU should beat them every year. Miles is 2-3 against Florida and 3-2 against Alabama. We did lose to both 2 years in a row, over that span they have combined for 2 losses excluding the game against each other, which naturally some one had to lose.
This post was edited on 11/10/09 at 10:27 pm
Posted by Genghis Khan
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 10:27 pm to
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Afterall, a critic is a legless man who teaches running!


Does one need to be a musician to tell whether or not a song is out of tune or out of synch? I don't think so. You simply need a set of trained ears.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 10:29 pm to
I don't expect another NC and that is not what I am thinking every year. I just like our teams to be competitive and yes, I got used to being a regular visitor to Atlanta. That is my ultimate goal each year. WIn the west and see if we can win the SEC. Go to a NYD or BCS bowl.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 10:30 pm to
This thread has a good balance of pro and anti Miles folks. Should be a 5 page thread by midnight.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40882 posts
Posted on 11/10/09 at 10:31 pm to
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no, not crediting Miles for that one. That was all JR.
vince young single handedly beat usc. Hester just about single handidly beat florida. SO. That is why its so important to have great recruiting. good players trancend greatness.

Look at PP for further proof. That cannot be coached.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 10:33 pm to
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vince young single handedly beat usc. Hester just about single handidly beat florida.


I hope you are just being hyperbolic, because its beyond stupid to say a player in a game with 21 other starters on his team won it by himself.
Posted by Genghis Khan
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 10:34 pm to
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Define more success?


No losing records in the SEC
Splitting the annual match-up with Florida and Alabama

Miles had early success against both Saban and Meyer when they were building their programs. Do you feel comfortable that LSU will be the team to beat the next time they face UF and UA?
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40882 posts
Posted on 11/10/09 at 10:34 pm to
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don't expect another NC and that is not what I am thinking every year. I just like our teams to be competitive and yes, I got used to being a regular visitor to Atlanta. That is my ultimate goal each year. WIn the west and see if we can win the SEC. Go to a NYD or BCS bowl.
So this is not an improvment of what we had last year? Do you think we will some how get worse next year?

Miles biggest problem is he came after saban.

could he have rebuilt lsu?? who knows. Lsu made saban as much as saban made lsu.

I think we should play for the sec every year also. But that is not entirely realistic. Fans at auburn, arkansas, and alabama think the same.

can't have it every year. You need breaks inspite of good coaching.
Posted by LSUownsSEC
OutOfTheArea
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 10:35 pm to
this is not an argument between U & i GK ... we are all human and mistakes are made. Many times some of us are cheated but:
With these belows and that 6th one, then we are in tune!



quote:

You simply need a set of trained ears.


Posted by SS4LSU
Member since Sep 2007
370 posts
Posted on 11/10/09 at 10:35 pm to
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PiscesTiger


My question to you is "Who do you want as a coach?" Because I promise you whomever you say I will have just as much crap to say about them as you just did about Miles.

Saban just barely beat Tenn. They had to block two field goals to do it, if you want to call those blocks.

I don't know who you people want as a coach or expect from a coach. When Saban was here there were tons of people wanted him gone. You don't want to go through all the bad games he had. You don't want to go through the bad games his last season here, which by the way consisted of HIS players. I am not bashing Saban. I think he a great coach, but you can't bash Miles and forget faults of other coaches.

So give us your list of candidates.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 10:36 pm to
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I hope you are just being hyperbolic
yes i was. Texas was a GREAT team. But vince gave them the edge much like tebow does. Just like mccoy is now.

Gotta have those leaders.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 11/10/09 at 10:36 pm to
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Define more success?


Not having to wait until the laast seconds to beat teams like Moo State and Troy. There is no excuse for that. NONE! We are/were more talented at EVERYsingle position on the field than those teams.

Yes, Saban lost to UAB. That was his first year. He won't lose that game a year later.
Posted by SS4LSU
Member since Sep 2007
370 posts
Posted on 11/10/09 at 10:37 pm to
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Do you feel comfortable that LSU will be the team to beat the next time they face UF and UA?


Yes!!
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40882 posts
Posted on 11/10/09 at 10:40 pm to
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Not having to wait until the laast seconds to beat teams like Moo State and Troy. There is no excuse for that. NONE! We are/were more talented at EVERYsingle position on the field than those teams.
Have you seen the saints last couple of games.

they have the top offense in the nfl, but it's getting harder to win the way they have.

once you have it, everybody wants it. and it gets harder to keep it.

lets see how well bama does agaist state this weekend. Can't wait.

Oh, the same miss state team you are talking about almost beat florida.

oklahoma has lost 3 in the big 12 because of qb issues.

cut miles some slack. JJ will be much better next year and will be more then capable of driving the ball down miss stat's throat. He has just enough inexpierience to keep teams in it.

but that is changing FAST.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 11/10/09 at 10:41 pm to
And I hate bringing Saban into an argument like this one because this has nothing to do with him, but be sure that someone will bring the 2000 UAB game up. It never fails.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
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Posted on 11/10/09 at 10:41 pm to
What makes one a "Miles Apologist"?
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40882 posts
Posted on 11/10/09 at 10:42 pm to
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Do you feel comfortable that LSU will be the team to beat the next time they face UF and UA?
florida? really? they lose a ton off thier defense. TEbow goes bye bye.

they lose 4 games next year. but thats ok, cuz URBAN IS THE GREATEST!!!!

just like he was in 07
Posted by SS4LSU
Member since Sep 2007
370 posts
Posted on 11/10/09 at 10:43 pm to
Most would consider Alabama way more talented than Tn this year, but they needed to pull a miracle out their arse to win.

Alabama was more talented than ULM but still lost.

Yada Yada Yada.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40882 posts
Posted on 11/10/09 at 10:43 pm to
good night guys. 5 am comes early
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