re: What is the "worst" case scenario?

I also like what you said about Butch and Richt, Stoops, and Brown.

I'm sure if you asked a good percentage of these frickheads on here how they feel about Butch and then what they think the other 3 coaches, they'd probably tell you those coaches aren't strong for one reason or another but that Butch is.

10-2 RECORD THIS SEASON!! Anyway beat bama, florida,aurburn, then toss who you wan the 8-5 you choose who we lose to after that.But i like butch davis always have.Not sure but when we were looking for a new coach after saban left didnt we try and get butch davis and he pulled his name out of the race? May be late and and am tired but off the top of my head i think we did try to get him. Correct me if i am wrong, lets play this season before we start this shite..yall are some negative fans on here!!for real

I cant wish a losing record for nothing, but if we go 8-5 Miles will be gone BOOK IT

your premise is false

Your premise is that if we keep Les Miles, the team will be somewhere in the range of 5-7 to 8-5,
FOREVER and EVER, AMEN.

Keeping Miles does not doom LSU to mediocrity.

I think they will challenge for the BCS national championship in 2011 with QBs JL, JJ and Chris Garrett, and maybe Z Lee.

I admit I am disturbed by some elements of GC's play calling.
Nevertheless, although its wild and crazy, it sometimes hits the mark, see Auburn 2007 passing on the last play, when I would have thought a field goal was in order.

i don't want LSU to have a 5-7 type season no matter who the coach is. imo les should catch a LOT of heat this year should he lose more than 3 games. i know the schedule is touh, but he makes far too much money to be losing 4-5 games a year. the bad thing is, if the offensive line doesn't improve we could be looking at another 5 loss season. i know jj catches a lot of heat, but it starts in the trenches.

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LSU has 3 guarantees with ULM, Vandy, McNeese

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I think we really only have two in ULM and McNeese (God willing).

Vandy is in the extremely likely catagory but no guarantee.

I see it this way from the worst case scenerio:

9/4 North Carolina - Toss Up favoring UNC
9/11 at Vanderbilt- Probable Win
9/18 Miss. State- Probable Win
9/25 West Virginia - Favors LSU
10/2 Tennessee - Favors LSU
10/9 at Florida - Likely Loss
10/16 McNeese St. - MUST WIN
10/23 at Auburn - - Toss up favoring Auburn
11/6 Alabama - Likely Loss
11/13 UL-Monroe - MUST WIN
11/20 Ole Miss - Toss up favoring LSU
11/27 at Arkansas - Toss up favoring Arkansas

I think the bare bones worst is 4 wins (Vandy, MSU, McN, ULM ) but more likely worst is 6 (WVU & Tennessee).

Forget Bama and Florida, I think the biggest "must" is that we must at LEAST take 2/3 from Auburn, Ole Miss, and Arkansas. If we finish 4th or worse in the West, heads will need to roll.

I will never cheer for failure and I have no impact on the coaching changes, but another 4-5 loss season will require SERIOUS evaluation of the program's direction.

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I didn't say that.

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I know. Didn't mean to accuse you of that. And though I don't agree with your doom and gloom outlook, this is an interesting topic. I'd definitely take 8-5 over 5-7. However, I might rather go 4-8 than 7-6, assuming 7-6 keeps him around. I love Les, but 3 years is plenty.

just wondering if you can name the 5 games that we will for sure win

i see the two msus vandy and UL monroe which is our 5th game

west virginia

tennessee

auburn

I say worse case is 4-8

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LSU out-athletes almost everyone we play, yet we went 8-5 last year and flirted with losing to Miss State, Arkansas and La. Tech.

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we lost five games last year?

i love these flirted with losing comments. you can say we flirted with winning bama, ole miss, and penn st. for that matter.

Wasn't Pelini the d-coordinator when Arkansas ran for almost 400 yards against LSU?