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what is the solution to schedule inequity? (serious question)
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:12 pm
Miles comment (per DandyDon):
Does anyone really know how Miles thinks scheduling should go? Has he ever come out & given a proposed solution? Or any other coach for that matter (legitimate solution)?
No permanent cross-division rival?
Unless each team plays every other team annually, how can you possibly not have "annual inequity?"
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When commenting on the SEC scheduling, Miles said it did not go as he thinks it should. He said it should be straightforward and fair, but instead there is annual inequity.
Does anyone really know how Miles thinks scheduling should go? Has he ever come out & given a proposed solution? Or any other coach for that matter (legitimate solution)?
No permanent cross-division rival?
Unless each team plays every other team annually, how can you possibly not have "annual inequity?"
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:13 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
10 game SEC schedule. No permanent rivals.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:14 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
6-2 or 6-2-1
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:14 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
9 team schedule, rotating teams, allow teams to schedule SEC teams as OOC.
Only division games count towards SEC division standings.
Only division games count towards SEC division standings.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:16 pm to TigerBait1127
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9 team schedule, rotating teams, allow teams to schedule SEC teams as OOC.
Only division games count towards SEC division standings.
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:17 pm to monsterballads
Each of the proposed suggestions still has annual inequity.
Are any of these proposed by Miles?
Are any of these proposed by Miles?
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:18 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
Simple; play everyone in your division & have a rotating schedule with the other division. Gives the fans & the players an opportunity to see many of the schools from the other division that we/they don't get to see now but maybe once every 8-10 years.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:19 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
Keep the current format, but only count division wins and losses to select the participants in Atlanta, rendering the cross-divisional opponent games meaningless, while still retaining the "traditional rivals."
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:24 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
It will only change if Slive wants it. All of the members voting to keep it the same reap benefits in one way or another.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:28 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
quote:
what is the solution to schedule inequity?
There is none.
People need to drop the obsession with a national champion in college football, and just have fun watching the games each week.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:33 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
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Each of the proposed suggestions still has annual inequity.
Are any of these proposed by Miles?
There is a difference between chance being the source of inequity and structure itself. Miles' proposal is 8 games and no permanent xdiv rival.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:40 pm to Indiana Tiger
The only way to make it even close to equitable is to make only division games count and go up to at least 3 cross-divisional games.
Teams then have 3 non-conference games they can schedule which can include their "traditional rival".
In the end, that is the only way short of no SEC championship game, and playing 13 regular season only SEC games in a round robin.
Even that won't be equitable since any given year each team may have the easier home or road schedule.
Teams then have 3 non-conference games they can schedule which can include their "traditional rival".
In the end, that is the only way short of no SEC championship game, and playing 13 regular season only SEC games in a round robin.
Even that won't be equitable since any given year each team may have the easier home or road schedule.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:42 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
The only thing the permanent crossover does is prevent an equitable schedule over a certain time period. If LSU doesn't play Florida and win in 2007 they don't play for the national title - it's that simple.
If Tenn was the Tenn they were back in the 90's than Bama's schedule would be a lot tougher - the major whining is that while Bama is benefitting from a down Tenn program right now and LSU has played a far better Fla over that same time period, that one game can be the difference in getting in the SEC title game and in the years when LSU has to play UGA, which conveniently they had to last year before all the UGA injuries it was not equitable to Bama playing UK.
In the long run it should balance out and Tenn should get back to what they were and Saban won't be at Bama forever.
If Tenn was the Tenn they were back in the 90's than Bama's schedule would be a lot tougher - the major whining is that while Bama is benefitting from a down Tenn program right now and LSU has played a far better Fla over that same time period, that one game can be the difference in getting in the SEC title game and in the years when LSU has to play UGA, which conveniently they had to last year before all the UGA injuries it was not equitable to Bama playing UK.
In the long run it should balance out and Tenn should get back to what they were and Saban won't be at Bama forever.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:49 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
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Each of the proposed suggestions still has annual inequity.
You can never find an answer then. Mine acknowledges that there will be inequity and adjusts for it
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:50 pm to Geauxgurt
quote:this is the most reasonable solution so far...IMO
The only way to make it even close to equitable is to make only division games count and go up to at least 3 cross-divisional games.
Teams then have 3 non-conference games they can schedule which can include their "traditional rival".
In the end, that is the only way short of no SEC championship game, and playing 13 regular season only SEC games in a round robin.
Even that won't be equitable since any given year each team may have the easier home or road schedule.
If you play 3 cross-div games, much easier for schedule makers to effectively create some form of scheduling parity (whether they would or not is another story).
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:56 pm to Indiana Tiger
quote:If this is true, it doesn't seem like a reasonable solution. You could still have a team with a year of playing 2 cupcake teams & another team playing 2 top ten teams.
Miles' proposal is 8 games and no permanent xdiv rival.
That's the definition of inequity.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:00 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
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That's the definition of inequity.
At least it's not institutionalized inequity
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:01 pm to lsu2006
Teams' successes are cyclical. That's why cross-divisional opponents need to rotate. Implement a system of rotating cross-divisional opponents and you get what you get.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:03 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
You rotate in 2 different East teams each yr until you have played all East team and then you start over again. How hard is that?
The reason things stay the same is more teams than not like their competitive edge the current format gives them. This "tradition" BS is simply the cover they use. If tradition was kinda over riding thing to the SEC, A&M and Missouri wouldn't be in the SEC and SEC games would at night in TS.imo
The reason things stay the same is more teams than not like their competitive edge the current format gives them. This "tradition" BS is simply the cover they use. If tradition was kinda over riding thing to the SEC, A&M and Missouri wouldn't be in the SEC and SEC games would at night in TS.imo
Posted on 5/1/14 at 2:06 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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You rotate in 2 different East teams each yr until you have played all East team and then you start over again. How hard is that?
Well, there are 7 teams in each division now. I don't know what kind of system of rotation needs to occur but there needs to be one. Bring in a third-party to consult on it, because we can't trust the Gumps/Auburn folk in the SEC office to come up with something as far as we can throw them.
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