re: What is the intent of NIL?

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So if that's not the intent, then you tell us the mission statement of NIL? I'd like to read it

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What are you even asking? The intent is for student athletes to be able to make money. However much money someone wants to pay them. It’s not rocket science

Why do you hate freedom? frickin fascists smh

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Why do you hate freedom?

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Apex woke up with NIL on his mind. He probably was slamming doors & cabinets on his way take his morning piss.

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What are you even asking? The intent is for student athletes to be able to make money. However much money someone wants to pay them. It’s not rocket science

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So you're saying we don't need to talk about this further?

fine by me...

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Well only because the NCAA artificially handicapped the market.

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NCAA Mission Statement:

Our purpose is to govern competition in a fair, safe, equitable and sportsmanlike manner, and to integrate intercollegiate athletics into higher education so that the educational experience of the student-athlete is paramount.

NCAA Core Values
The Association - through its member institutions, conferences and national office staff - shares a belief in and commitment to:

The collegiate model of athletics in which students participate as an avocation, balancing their academic, social and athletics experiences.

The highest levels of integrity and sportsmanship.

The pursuit of excellence in both academics and athletics.

The supporting role that intercollegiate athletics plays in the higher education mission and in enhancing the sense of community and strengthening the
identity of member institutions.

An inclusive culture that fosters equitable participation for student-athletes and career opportunities for coaches and administrators from diverse backgrounds.

Respect for institutional autonomy and philosophical differences.

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These players have no brand until they get noticed on TV wearing a particular uniform...

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This is such a tired argument. Justin Timberlake had no brand until people saw him on Disney. So what?

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They have talent few even know about coming out of high school.

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This is what matters. Talent = value. If you really want to discuss the value proposition for the schools and players you will realize that the truth reveals a harsh reality.

It doesn’t matter that Justin Timberlake became famous at Disney, because his talent was ultimately the reason for success. He was free to weigh the pros and cons of working at Disney, or anywhere else, and decide accordingly. In all likelihood, Disney represented the best short term financial decision and the best long-term development opportunity. Why? Because the relationship is mutually beneficial, and Disney knows they stand to gain as well.

So yes - Bryce Young has a “brand” because he plays for Alabama, in a sense. But Bryce Young has talent and could just as easily build his brand somewhere else. In theory he should be able to weigh the benefits - in terms of exposure, compensation, personal development, etc. - of taking his talents to any program.

The difference is that Disney can’t legally collude with the rest of the entertainment industry to set the price of talent, or limitations on what other business deals that talent can enter into. At least not without agreeing to collective bargaining.

You’re asking about the intent of NIL rules, but you’re missing the point. NIL is a half-measure that only delays the inevitable conclusion - that either it turns into a true free market for players, or the NCAA member institutions go into collective bargaining with the players to try and maintain parity. That’s where this is headed.

If you’re waiting for the good ole days of “student athletes” to return, you’re naive about the reality of college football. It’s too big and there’s too much money involved. The amount of money already being spent at top programs on staff, amenities, recruiting, etc. should be a clear indication of that.

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billions

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Hardly

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This is such a tired argument. Justin Timberlake had no brand until people saw him on Disney. So what?

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are you really comparing a young singing career with a HS player athlete/ college student who signed a scholarship from a university?

LSU is a publicly funded institution, thus scholarships in part are funded by Louisiana residents, while Disney is a corporation which makes billions in profits, so there is zero correlation in what they do relative to "talent", so you're argument doesn't hold water

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This is what matters. Talent = value

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yeah well it's unproven, un developed talent...that's why we pay coaches what we do to help young men become committed to getting better...in many areas ..Coach Kelly has spoken a lot about this already.

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So yes - Bryce Young has a “brand” because he plays for Alabama, in a sense. But Bryce Young has talent and could just as easily build his brand somewhere else

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on another campus yes, but not outside the NCAA. There is no national championship, no Heisman award outside of this thing called College Football. Universities and tradition hold this treasure...

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You’re asking about the intent of NIL rules, but you’re missing the point. NIL is a half-measure that only delays the inevitable conclusion - that either it turns into a true free market for players, or the NCAA member institutions go into collective bargaining with the players to try and maintain parity. That’s where this is headed

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The harsh reality is this is first and foremost a university environment...not a professional sports environment,...College football is a business, yes in a sense people pay to watch football. There is a consumer piece of this.

but the players are students...always will be..because you have to academically qualify, you have to go to class, you have make your grades to get on the field and stay on the field. 98% of all football players never sniff the NFL...

so we have to focus on the 98%...when we talk about the business of college football

if what you are describing became a reality, then college football would have to leave the NCAA all together...

at that point , where do we go?

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If you’re waiting for the good ole days of “student athletes” to return, you’re naive about the reality of college football. It’s too big and there’s too much money involved. The amount of money already being spent at top programs on staff, amenities, recruiting, etc. should be a clear indication of that.

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I think the salaries are way out of bounds.

The facility spending is crazy

my argument is, the arena in which competition is held belongs to the schools...it's governed by the NCAA.

rights belong to players and business owners...but contract agreements must be 100% free of school connections and we all know it's not that way...

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f you really believe football is that unimportant in the grand scheme of things, why are you posting here?

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I am here because I love College football, I love LSU...I care a lot that the game could lose it's unique place in American sports. Very special.

We don't want another pro league and that's kind of what is being suggested in your arguments. "Just accept it"...

well, I am not okay with it and you shouldn't either if you love College football.

If the players aren’t employees, then the NCAA has no business restricting their income from third parties (e.g. NIL) - regardless of the reasons behind that income. If the players are employees, the NCAA can’t restrict their compensation from universities without allowing any collective bargaining. The NCAA wants to have it both ways.[/quote]

I think it has to do more with the beginning of college sports, the long lasting traditions when money was scarce, fast forwarding to what TV did to the sport....I think the NCAA struggles with holding on to the past and not knowing how to control the monster...

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The intent is that universities and coaches make millions on the back of athletes work.

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How many backs and how much money should player get under your thesis/understanding of the NIL?