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re: What is a acceptable record for Coach Ed Orgeron this year?
Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:29 am to Madking
Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:29 am to Madking
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Again Miles was bashed for losses not wins. And the attacks on Miles came years into his tenure not before it ever started.
The thing is Miles had a good track record before LSU. O doesn't.
No one is saying he's a failure right now but he should have a much shorter leash than Miles had. Coach O has to produce immediately. Not fair to him but this is the job he wanted.
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:32 am to NoGeaux
quote:Following Joe's lead, we seem to have taken the position, "Anyone But Miles".
Regardless of the positions staked out previously in this thead shouldn't we all want that level of success again and expect it?
Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:35 am to Madking
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More misleading dishonesty. I posted exactly why I wanted him and believe he should've been fired and it had nothing to do with rankings and SEC titles. If this is the level you're gonna stoop too I'm not going to engage you in this convo.
then stop responding.
it's not misleading to say you wanted miles fired after winning the sec title and finishing 2nd in the country. that sounds bad. it's sounds worse when you admit you wanted him fired because you didn't like his an choice.
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Anytime Miles is involved you turn into a different person completel
no I'm he same person all the time.tye problem is there are some facts about miles tenure at lsu that doesn't fit your football opinion. an opinion I've repeatedly said I respect.
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disturbing how much you love that man.
I love him so much i wanted him fired after 2015. it's like posyers on here don't understand the difference between facts and opinions. it's a fact when I say Miles had one of the most accomplished tenures in sec history,let alone lsu history.
it's a fact when I say miles had as many top 10 finishes as the previous 40 years combined.
those aren't defenses of miles. they are facts. do you see me disputing facts about his sec record the last 3 years? no.
do you see me trying convince people that a miles was an actual good X's and O's coach? no.
I've repeatedly said that miles was never on my top 10 current can coaches.
all you've ever seen me post is rebutalls to the assertion that his tenure was all luck,that he massively underachieved during his tenure, and that his tenure wasnt elite by lsu standards.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:38 am to Mayhawman
I don't care who the coach was against Florida, it wasn't coaching that lost that game. I get it, you are an O hater..good for you. Just for the record I was not an O fan, but I'll damn sure give him a chance.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:44 am to Kedwards1
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on't care who the coach was against Florida, it wasn't coaching that lost that game. I get it, you are an O hater..good for you. Just for the record I was not an O fan, but I'll damn sure give him a chance.
anytime a player looks lost and he players aren't focused it's on the coaches. that's literally their job.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 10:47 am to Kedwards1
You're 100% right... Dealing with children. Now prepare for double standard comments regarding your take on the Florida game.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 11:18 am to Madking
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're 100% right... Dealing with children
wow. the hypocrisy. You take issue woth people saying O should be fired if he only wins 8 games yet you admit you wanted a national title winning coach that had just won the sec title fired because you didn't agree with his choice at qb. the fact that you can't see the hypocrisy is mind blowing to me.
so let's see
quote:
Coach A
has accomplished frick all at lsu and you don't like posters saying he should be fired if he only wins 8 games
Coach B
in a 7 years span had 3 sec west titles,2 sec titles, 2 national title game appearances,a won a national title and you wanted him fired because he didnt play your favorite player
and you have the audacity to call someone else a child? wow brother.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 11:21 am to Madking
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You're 100% right... Dealing with children. Now prepare for double standard comments regarding your take on the Florida game.
double standard? you tout O for what our offense did during his interim tenure yet want to remove blame when our offense looked lost and our red zone execution was shite?
the amount of shite yoh let slide with O is astounding considering you wanted a very successful lsu coach fired because you didn't like his choice for qb.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 11:23 am to Rickdaddy4188
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you wanted a very successful lsu coach fired because you didn't like his hard arse head
Posted on 7/18/17 at 11:32 am to Kedwards1
quote:He supposedly has the one main virtue of motivator and blew it vs an injury riddled foe.
I don't care who the coach was against Florida, it wasn't coaching that lost that game.
quote:I don't hate O, just the proccess. Not his fault.
I get it, you are an O hater..good for you.
quote:Most give CEO a chance while still having reserves about competence.
Just for the record I was not an O fan, but I'll damn sure give him a chance.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 11:49 am to DTRooster
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you wanted a very successful lsu coach fired because you didn't like his hard arse head
yeah if only we had a god coach we couldve had one of the most accomplished tenures in sec history.
if we wouldve had a good coach then lsu wouldve beaten more ranked teams than any program
if we had a good coach we couldve had as many to 10 finishes as the previous 40 years combined
if only we would've had a good coach we couldve achieved all that
Posted on 7/18/17 at 1:05 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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nytime a player looks lost and he players aren't focused it's on the coaches. that's literally their job.
I seldom agree with rick but Florida game is on CEO. Fight before game got guys too hyped. He should have shut it down and refocused the team. They were fired up and moved up the field but when pressure increased they were not focused enough to carry out their assignments.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 1:35 pm to dljtigers
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I seldom agree with rick
I read this as," I'm usually not absolutely, 100% correct like RickDad is but....".
Posted on 7/18/17 at 1:41 pm to vjm41
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vjm41
we have already established that if you think a coach can luck into an 11 years tenure that was one of the most accomplished tenures in sec history you don't know shite about football.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 1:56 pm to dljtigers
Lol. You literally had two guys keep that game from being a blowout win. Otherwise, everyone is talking about if O had been coach all year, Lsu goes 10-1. It is hilarious the agenda the O haters (mostly kids that wanted a completely unproven outsider in Herman) will put out there in order to bash O. Make no mistake, if Lsu does well this year, all the credit will go to the coordinators, if they don't, all the blame is on O. The stage is set...with biased haters like you kids, O can't win.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:10 pm to Rickdaddy4188
RIckdaddy, I forgot more about football than you will ever know.!!! Don't get all bent out of shape and your panties in a wad and your little pride hurt because Madking and dukke v is giving you a lesson in football and that the love of your life, Les Miles isn't what you want him to be, put on your big boy pants and deal with it. You should have realized that Miles was on the job training in 05 when he blew a 21 point lead on Tenn, YOU should have known that he was in over his head in 06 when he blew the Auburn game and cost us a shot at the NC when he took the play calling away from Jimbo at halftime, a game that Jimbo F said we would have won by 20 points if Miles hadn't taken the play calling away, YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN A RED FLAG come up in 07 WITH again by far the best team in the Country and loses to OF ALL TEAMS Kentucky and Arkansas. after this elite Saban and Jimbo talent was gone Miles did have 1 Year 2011.
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:10 pm to vjm41
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:21 pm to Kedwards1
quote:Holy deflection!
Otherwise, everyone is talking about if O had been coach all year, Lsu goes 10-1
First it was the players, now resorting to blaming O's losses on the previous staff?
Posted on 7/18/17 at 3:10 pm to Kedwards1
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The stage is set...with biased haters like you kids, O can't win.
I'm actually a big fan of CEO, but I gotta call it like I see it. Hope he does well and if we do good I will give him the credit he deserves. I think he did a good job last year. If he does a good job this year we found our guy at least for a while if not we need to be looking for another coach, its that simple.
Posted on 7/18/17 at 3:26 pm to dljtigers
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Fight before game got guys too hyped
Not only that, but O showed a real weakness of discipline when he caved in to LF, hurt all week to the point he cant play, suddenly getting well and running in to suit up. He was either hurt and shouldn't play or he was faking how much he was hurt and shouldn't play.
Ten points scored AT HOME against the only teams O played with a run defense with a pulse, but lets turn our program over to him.
Great process and great call, Alleva!
Oh well, with our talent any coach can win 10-11 games.
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