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re: What, if any, matchups does lsu have against Bama?

Posted on 11/4/08 at 10:44 am to
Posted by MandevilleLSUTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
6883 posts
Posted on 11/4/08 at 10:44 am to
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lol they might not be crystals but we got twelve of them to look at.... are you sure you want to compare trophy cases


Claiming a title and winning a title are not the same thing.
Posted by TigerStick
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2005
1203 posts
Posted on 11/4/08 at 11:52 am to
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that's why i was asking. i don't see any advantage for lsu


It's tough to say where LSU has the advantage, mostly because Bama is playing with alot of confidence right now. LSU might have more talent, but it just hasn't come together.

Where there might be an advantage is LSU has played and WON these types of games in the past few years. Bama in 2005, Ark in 2006, and UF in 2007. I know Bama went into UGA and silenced the #2 team in the country. But it honestly couldn't have gone any better for you in the first half. Even then, UGA almost got back into it. Outside of that, any key wins the last few years?

In a tight game, late in the 4th, how comfortable are you Bama can pull it out? That's asking alot from a bunch of guys who haven't been there before, including a handful of key freshmen.

Posted by TigersWon
Alabama
Member since Jun 2007
1434 posts
Posted on 11/4/08 at 12:01 pm to
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know it's hard to believe but we got 12


I bet you don't get 13.
Posted by thechad129
Member since Oct 2008
172 posts
Posted on 11/4/08 at 12:14 pm to
Broskies...it all comes down to how many pick-sixes Jarrett Lee throws...if its 1...we maybe have a shot to win by a FG...(we have a better shot of winning the lottery than for him not to throw an INT, so that option is out of the question)...but if he throws 2....we are done like dinner!
Posted by bigsmooth1973
Abbeville, La
Member since Nov 2008
544 posts
Posted on 11/4/08 at 12:15 pm to
name 1 good team that yall have beat this year
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
14449 posts
Posted on 11/4/08 at 12:16 pm to
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In a tight game, late in the 4th, how comfortable are you Bama can pull it out? That's asking alot from a bunch of guys who haven't been there before, including a handful of key freshmen.


Hey, TigerStick.....seeing that Bama has not been able to get their shite together in the 2nd half this whole year I would imagine that a close game in the 4th is a pretty terrifying thought for the little Gump Bastards.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
14449 posts
Posted on 11/4/08 at 12:18 pm to
To answer your matchup question I'm hoping for a battle of the 400# dudes.

Big Herm>>>>>>>>T.Cody In fact, Big Herm might eat him for a snack at halftime
Posted by bigsmooth1973
Abbeville, La
Member since Nov 2008
544 posts
Posted on 11/4/08 at 12:25 pm to
how many BCS titles do you have? That's what i thougt, just titles that someone GAVE you, didn't earn many
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32748 posts
Posted on 11/4/08 at 1:01 pm to
Safety blitz vs Sarah Jessica. Worked pretty well last year, remember?
This post was edited on 11/4/08 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
3070 posts
Posted on 11/4/08 at 3:01 pm to
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lol they might not be crystals but we got twelve of them to look at.... are you sure you want to compare trophy cases


And while your at it if you had any credibility you would change your name to 6forBama of course like Bama's national championships why let credibility, logic and facts cloud the picture!!!!!

OKAY, WE GOT THE HISTORY LESSON. NOW TELL US WHY SOME OF ALABAMA'S TITLES ARE FRAUDS!

Glad you asked. Alabama claims national titles for the following years: 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1941, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992. Other than the first three, we'll go over each season individually.

1925, 1926, 1930. All back-dated titles. These titles were awarded years after the fact. Four teams could claim a back-dated title in 1925, eight teams in 1926, and two in 1930. See how inconsistent back-dated titles were? Doesn't matter. They don't really exist. Pure and simple resume embellishment. Strike 3 titles from Bama's record.

1934--The first year for the AP poll, given to Minnesota. Alabama received 11 selectors choosing them, but I'm sure most of them were back-dated--impossible to know for sure. Minnesota had 29 selectors, most of them probably back-dated, but they got the only one that counted--the AP. Strike another title from Bama's record.

1941--The most belligerent of Alabama's bogus titles. Alabama finished the season with 2 losses and ranked #20 in the final AP poll. But one of the minor selectors out of over 30 chose Alabama, and evidently, that's the only excuse they needed. Five other teams that year would have a superior claim over Alabama's if you counted minor selectors, but we don't.

I'm not really sure how many years after the fact Bama raised this banner, but you can bet it was many--so that not many people might notice. Strike another title from their record--we're on a roll--up to five, now!

1961--Ahh, the beginning of the Bear era, and the golden age of Tide football. Alabama was pretty much a consensus champion, with both of the major polls, the AP and UPI, going their way. Some minor selectors chose Texas and Ohio State, but this title is solid. Score one legitimate title!

1964-- A 10-1 Alabama team claims a national title in 1964 in spite of an 11-0 Arkansas team having a better claim. Here, an instance of both the AP and UPI, which voted Alabama # 1 that year, still voting prior to the bowl game. Had the polls been conducted after the bowls, then I'm sure it would have been a consensus Arkansas pick because Alabama lost to Texas in the Orange bowl, but Arkansas beat Texas during the regular season. I honor Alabama's title because that was the rules that were in place at the time. Chalk up another legitimate title for the Tide, although reason would probably confer it on Arkansas.

1965--The first of Alabama's supposed two back-to-back titles. It was a split decision between the 9-1-1 Tide, who dropped the first game to Georgia and tied Tennessee, winning the AP title, and Michigan State, 10-1, dropping the Rose Bowl, winning the UPI crown--again, bestowed BEFORE the bowl games, while the AP that year was done afterwards. Two other teams, Arkansas and Dartmouth, also got a few minor selectors to choose them, but an AP title is gold, so score another legitimate title for the Tide, now up to three.

1966--Okay, Alabama does not claim this year as a national title, but here's the really strange part. Curiously, Alabama got shafted in 1966 by both the AP and UPI despite going 11-0 but finishing behind in both polls to Notre Dame and Michigan State, both who were 9-0-1 (yes, they tied each other) What's even stranger is that Alabama didn't claim a title anyway, considering that some minor selectors did choose them as national champs and that's seemingly all you need if you're Alabama. Very strange indeed why Alabama doesn't 'officially' claim this, although I think they honor it in some small way.

1973--Alabama goes 11-1 and is chosen by the UPI. Notre Dame goes 11-0 and is crowned by the AP as NC. Who did the Irish beat in the Sugar Bowl? Why, Alabama, for their only loss. Why in the hell did Alabama get a national championship after losing their bowl game to the real national champion? Because the UPI was still choosing their champion BEFORE the bowl games. How crazy is that? Pretty crazy, by today's standards. If Alabama had any sense of decency, they would refuse to claim 1973 as a title year since they lost the de facto national championship game to the real champions. Only a petulant child would disagree. All reason says strike this title from the record!

1978--Split title year, AP going to Alabama, and the UPI going to USC. A funny thing happened on the way to the forum, however. Alabama LOST to USC during the regular season. But alas, USC lost a regular season game too, and the two teams did not meet in a bowl game. So be it. Chalk up title number four to Bama, even if they did share it with a team they lost to at home.

1979--The goal-line stand title, against Penn State in the Sugar Bowl. Most of us remember watching that game. Alabama was 12-0 and took all the marbles and most of the selectors. No argument here. Score number five in legitimate titles!

1992--Alabama's only 'modern' day title, complete with all the 24 hour media attention afforded 'national championship' bowl match-ups, in this case a beat-down of Miami in the Sugar Bowl. Absolutely no doubt. Final tally to date, six legitimate national championships.

SO THERE YOU HAVE IT?

Yes, in this man's opinion. Any of the facts I give can be readily checked. Know this though: If you try to throw all of this in some Bammer's face, you're not going to accomplish anything. Denial is too strong a sentiment and this is way too much evidence to the contrary. Just like you can't give starving people a steak dinner all of a sudden, you have to work on your favorite Bama fan gradually. But chances are, most of them have little idea of the history of their team and the inside knowledge of their self-appointed accolades.

We'll never straighten this mess out. The NCAA will never touch it. They may sanction a playoff one day, but they will never go back and declare retroactively what titles can be claimed by what teams. Some years in the past, 5-7 teams claim a national championship for a given year. There's just too much ambiguity in all this.

WELL WHAT ABOUT AUBURN? YOU'VE ONLY WON ONE TITLE, WHICH IS WAY LESS THAN OUR 12 OR 6 OR HO THE HELL EVER MANY YOU THINK WE HAVE!

True, we only claim one, but know this: If we used the University of Alabama method of determining NCs, which is claiming back-dated titles, and claiming titles awarded by minor, inferior selectors, we could claim seven--1910, 1913, 1914, 1957, 1983, 1993, 2004. Thankfully, we take the high road and do not!

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