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re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his career

Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by Salviati
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:32 pm to
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Because they are not comparable. Lee did not play in the SECCG or the BCSCG.
Lee didn't play against Arkansas either, so why are we using that game in the comparison?
You can't be this obtuse, can you?

Are you trying to suggest that post-season games are equal to regular season games?

Arkansas was a regular season game, just like all of the other regular season games I am comparing.


But if you REALLY want to focus on Arkansas, consider this:

LSU played the #3 team twice in 2011.

In the first game, the QB completed 45% of his passes for less than 100 yards passing. His QB rating was under 100. That #3 team had the 88th ranked passing defense.

In the second game LSU played against a #3 team, the QB completed 62% of his passes for over 200 yards passing. The QB also rushed for 53 yards in LSU's most prolific offensive performance in 2011. The only game in which LSU gained almost 500 yards . . . and the QB was responsible for over half of those yards. That #3 team had the 24th ranked passing defense.
Posted by ThreauxDown11
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2013
1655 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:34 pm to
I was saying this just yesterday Jordan didnt have it between the ears. I think jordan was a better QB than lee physically. Lee just had the knowledge to operate under pressure and make quick decisions which is what we needed. I do agree on using Jefferson instead of lee against bama. Lee got fricked over everyone we played Bama. Pretty sure he threw an interception in every bama game while he was here
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6070 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:34 pm to
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You can't be this obtuse, can you


Pot, meet kettle.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5741 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:34 pm to
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That post may be the dumbest thing I have ever read on the internet.

Kudos.
You clearly have nothing substantive to say. That post was clear and accurate.

Oh, and dude, most folks know YOUR post history. You REALLY shouldn't go throwing stones.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:35 pm to
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By the grace of God, Lee is blessed such that no one can PROVE it. He had a terrible history against Bama. It was wretched and awful. That's why the coaching staff selected Jefferson to play against Bama.


Actually he saved LSU's arse in 2010, and he went to double overtime with them in 2008.

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Because they are not comparable. Lee did not play in the SECCG or the BCSCG

If he had played in the SEC CG, the score would have never been close and LSU wouldn't have had to rely on the special teams and defense to turn that game around. Apparently while you were suspended, you didn't watch J Lee lead the SEC in QB efficiency while LSU was steam rolling some very good teams.

In the BCSCG, I don't care if J Lee would have been o fer, it could not have been any worse than your performance that game. Pathetic.

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Lee came in against Bama in 2010 because Jefferson was hurt. Lee came in against Tennessee and Florida because he was the two-minute offense QB.


This sums up your entire existence more than anything else JJ. Always blaming someone else other than yourself. Lee came in the Alabama game because the coaches knew you couldn't complete a 15 yard pass that was needed to make a first down.

Lee came into the game against Tenn and Florida because we sucked on offense and were going to lose the games. You have always had excuses for everything. You would brag about a 100 yard game saying you thought you played great. Look at where you are now in life, and where Lee is in life. It is not surprising.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:35 pm to
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J Lee 2011 Stats:

62.3%, 1306 yards, 7.8 y/a, 14td-3int, overall rating 152

J Jefferson 2011 Stats:

61%, 737 yards, 7.4 y/a, 6td-2int, 138 overall rating.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5741 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:36 pm to
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you are pathetic man, give it up
You've posted twice in this thread, and yet you haven't added anything to it.

Please let me know when you are ready to contribute something substantive to this thread.


Nevertheless, I appreciate the bump.
Posted by tigerclaws15
Member since Jan 2007
3482 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:39 pm to
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Nevertheless, I appreciate the bump.


the bump obviously occurred to your head, No way a rational human being would constantly suck JJ the way you have in this thread
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:40 pm to
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both better than Jennings


Post this again when Jennings throws 7 TDs to the opposing defense and you may be right.
Posted by tigerclaws15
Member since Jan 2007
3482 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:42 pm to
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Post this again when Jennings throws 7 TDs to the opposing defense and you may be right.


all he needed was a few more drives against that vaunted new mexico state d and he would done it before the first half
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5741 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:43 pm to
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His regular season 2011 stats are much better than Lee's.
Hey ms. Jefferson....I think this is where I just post data and not say anything else. No need to say anything I wouldn't expect.....I think people can figure you out.


J Lee 2011 Stats:

62.3%, 1306 yards, 7.8 y/a, 14td-3int, overall rating 152

J Jefferson 2011 Stats:

61%, 737 yards, 7.4 y/a, 6td-2int, 138 overall rating.


Jefferson (2011 Regular Season)
64.3%, 9.34 YPA, 5 TDs, 1 INT, INT% 1.43%, Overall Rating 163.48

Lee (2011 Regular Season)
62.3%, 7.82 YPA, 14 TDs, 3 INTs, INT% 1.80%, Overall Rating 152.04
Posted by tigerclaws15
Member since Jan 2007
3482 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:43 pm to
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chilge1


do you love Jennings more than Sal loves JJ? that is the big question
Posted by tigerclaws15
Member since Jan 2007
3482 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:44 pm to
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J Lee 2011 Stats:

62.3%, 1306 yards, 7.8 y/a, 14td-3int, overall rating 152

J Jefferson 2011 Stats:

61%, 737 yards, 7.4 y/a, 6td-2int, 138 overall rating.



Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:45 pm to
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5/13 30yds and 11/17 53 yds 1 int is embarrassing.


LMAO

JJ is in here, eh uh salvanti, is in here trying to build his cred because he played these tough teams.......GOOD FRICKING GOD....look how pathetic those numbers were.

JJ likes to toot his own horn against western ky and Ole Miss in the 2011 regular season...you guys do remember ole miss in 2011 right.....one of the worst teams in their history........when he played good teams....he was the JJ we all knew....the deer in headlight ball holding sack taking slow thinking JJ......
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5741 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:45 pm to
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That's why Lee was brought into the game late in 2010 with a third and long right? He bailed JJ out of that game, because the coaches didn't have confidence that JJ could complete a third and 15 or whatever it was......and they didn't want to give the ball back to Bama with a little over a minute left (which we obviously no why).

You are a real piece of work JJ.
Lee came in because Jefferson got hurt. No more and no less.


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which past are you referring to?

The one where Lee had to save us against Mcnese St? Or was it the one he had to bail us out against Tenn? Or the game against Florida where we were dead in the water until Lee bailed us out? Or the game against Alabama where Lee came in to complete a clutch 3rd and long (JJ sacked again from holding ball too long) to seal the victory against Bama instead of turning the ball back over to them with over a minute to go? Which one of these didn't work out for LSU by bringing J Lee into the game. You are pathetic...and you have to be prejudiced....I'm guessing you are either JJ or a family member.....
ee came in against Bama in 2010 because Jefferson was hurt. Lee came in against Tennessee and Florida because he was the two-minute offense QB.

In the Tennessee game, LSU had three scoring drives. Jefferson led two of the scoring drives. Lee did lead the final two LSU drives. He threw an interception on the first of those drives. On the final drive, Lee failed on third down to keep the drive alive. Fortunately for Lee, LSU had nothing to lose by going for it on 4th down. Jefferson did not have that luxury throughout the game. Jefferson had to get 10 yards in three downs. Lee got four down to get 10 yards. To Lee's credit, he was able to get a first down on fourth down. Jefferson successfully finished that final drive.

In the Florida game, Jefferson had 42 yards rushing and 100 yards passing; Lee had 124 yards passing. Jefferson rushed for two TDs; Lee threw for two TDs. Jefferson led two scoring drives. Lee came on the final drive because he was the two-minute drill QB in 2010. He failed on third down to keep the drive alive. Fortunately for Lee, LSU had nothing to lose by going for it on 4th down. Jefferson did not have that luxury throughout the game. Jefferson had to get 10 yards in three downs. Lee got four down to get 10 yards. To Lee's credit, he was able to get a first down on fourth down. Good job, Lee.

In the Alabama game, Jefferson was 10 of 13. Lee was 4 of 7. Jefferson threw a brilliant TD pass. Lee completed an important 47 yard pass on third down. Good job, Lee.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:47 pm to
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all he needed was a few more drives against that vaunted new mexico state d and he would done it before the first half


Sure, if by a few, you mean 7.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:47 pm to
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J Lee 2011 Stats:

62.3%, 1306 yards, 7.8 y/a, 14td-3int, overall rating 152

J Jefferson 2011 Stats:

61%, 737 yards, 7.4 y/a, 6td-2int, 138 overall rating.
Posted by tigerclaws15
Member since Jan 2007
3482 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:48 pm to
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J Lee 2011 Stats:

62.3%, 1306 yards, 7.8 y/a, 14td-3int, overall rating 152

J Jefferson 2011 Stats:

61%, 737 yards, 7.4 y/a, 6td-2int, 138 overall rating.


Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5741 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:48 pm to
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You are wrong. Lee did not have better 2011 stats. Jefferson did.
Good argument. Way to refute your incorrect statement so effectively.
Okay, we know you're full of shite. You did not quote me correctly. What I said was:
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You are wrong. Lee did not have better regular season 2011 stats. Jefferson did.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:48 pm to
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Jefferson (2011 Regular Season) 64.3%, 9.34 YPA, 5 TDs, 1 INT, INT% 1.43%, Overall Rating 163.48


listen you pathetic piece of shite, everyone on here knows who you are. You were a loser and will always be a loser.

You like to post your three games for the regular season right???? Your Western Kentucky, and an Ole Miss team that was the worst in the program's history. You are one pathetic piece of shite...and here is the comical thing...as bad as Jennings is, he will pass up your numbers if he starts the next two years....think about that you loser.
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