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re: Welter with one solo tackle last night

Posted on 8/31/14 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 8/31/14 at 12:00 pm to
It just wouldn't be a legit welter thread without TIGRLEE
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 12:02 pm to
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I am beginning to think that he is nothing but a gym rat.

Vernon Gholston 2.0
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 12:02 pm to
Kwon looked bad at times too. He broke containment on that first drive that led to the long TD. Our defense is a mess all around except the secondary. The front seven looks bad. It starts with the DL. They can't get pressure and they have no gap discipline on run plays. The DL is going to be worse than last year. Your LBs are going to look even worse when they're getting 325lb lineman slammed on them because a DT blew his gap responsibility.

LSU is not built to allow lineman to engage our LBs consistently. They're mostly undersized and built for speed and disruption. They look fine when the DL does its job. Starts in the trenches. Can't control it then everyone behind you looks bad.

DL is a major concern right now. If they don't clean themselves up then the secondary is going to look horrible too against any half competent team that can throw the ball like the Cowbells coming up in late September. Our secondary is talented but when you can't get pressure and have all day to throw they're going to look TERRIBLE. I was concerned our defense would be overrated because of our Dline and it's looking like that might be true. I just don't think they're going to magically be good as the season goes along.
This post was edited on 8/31/14 at 12:04 pm
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 12:02 pm to
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gordon made welter his bitch last night
Gordon made Hunter his bitch last night.

I'll ask again. What's your point? Should we replace all our starters since one of the best O-lines and RBs in the country took them to school for a half?
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 12:03 pm to
Yuck it up, luckily the secondary was good enough to clean up Welter's mess. Middle of the D = soft.
Posted by LSU6969
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Jun 2008
1148 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 12:03 pm to
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Gordon made welter his bitch last night.


FOr the record Gordon made alot of LSU players his bithces last night.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
23876 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 12:03 pm to
Just replace welter and get valentine cleared
This post was edited on 8/31/14 at 12:04 pm
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31151 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 12:04 pm to
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Starts in the trenches. Can't control it then everyone behind you looks bad.


really wish valentine was getting into the mix early. I think he could be a run stuffer right off the bat.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83124 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 12:04 pm to
I thought LSU signed about 6 stud LBs the past few years and the LBs would be a strength
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 12:05 pm to
The joy it gives me to see him out there hustling and you kids crying about it.
If you only knew.
Posted by Buga
Member since Dec 2013
1617 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 12:06 pm to
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I'll admit there is some overstating the case, but most of us who criticize are just used to seeing better at that position.


This sounds reasonable. Minter, Shepherd, Highsmith seemed to be around the ball all the time. That's what I like about those guys. Welter just isn't the playmaker that those guys were and that's what we expect. Though I will say he's not as bad a player as some think.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 12:07 pm to
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Just replace welter
That's what I thought. You basically admit your biases.

Hunter gets schooled? No prob.
Welter gets schooled? Replace him.

How about this: We trust one of the best DCs in CFB to make the best decisions for the team? I think that would be a good idea.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31151 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 12:07 pm to
I WANT welter to do well. I WANT him to be a play maker and take over the spot and play great.

As welter goes, so does the defense's success. He's just not a play maker, and I don't know that he ever will be.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
23876 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 12:07 pm to
LBs are good. Dline sux. I wish freak was here :(
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 12:07 pm to
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Message Posted by Burt Reynolds Just replace welter and get valentine cleared



Meh, let's not and just say we did.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 12:08 pm to
It's dline man. This attrition to the draft is killing us. We have a bunch of underachievers starting at DE and minimum experience at DT. Hunter has played like a workout warrior and Rasco hasn't come close to living up to his hype. We lost 2 average DTs to the draft. The guys we have starting now couldn't put them on the bench. So, yeah. Going to struggle there with minimum experience. I honestly think QT is still hurt too. He looked off to me last night.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31151 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 12:08 pm to
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Welter just isn't the playmaker that those guys were and that's what we expect.


yep.

quote:

Though I will say he's not as bad a player as some think.


if you watch him as the ball is snapped, he's tentative as to where he's supposed to be. he gets blocked out of the play usually.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296383 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 12:08 pm to

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Kwon looked bad at times too. He broke containment on that first drive that led to the long TD. Our defense is a mess all around


Every one of the front 7 (regardless of rotation) looked bad in the first half. Kwon separated himself from the other LB'ers in the second half.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31151 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 12:09 pm to
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Kwon separated himself from the other LB'ers in the second half.



agreed
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83124 posts
Posted on 8/31/14 at 12:09 pm to
Yeah the NFL draft is the real culprit
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