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re: We got a Break on the Interference Call
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:29 pm to Kal_Varnsen
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:29 pm to Kal_Varnsen
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Kal_Varnsen
We can't see photos that are in your e-mail. I hope you realize that.
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Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:30 pm to Kal_Varnsen
It doesn't matter if the ball had hit Jones glove or whatever happened... Bottom line is that the runner interfered with him fielding the ball and because of it he was called out...
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:30 pm to Tigerfan7218
quote:Not when you're moving full speed in the opposite direction. LSU got a break. We won. It was a questionable call. I thought the wrong call, but I'm happy LSU won.
Still gonna be within reach
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:31 pm to StatMaster
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And Jones was completely stationary when the contact occurred right??
Why would you reward the fielder who booted the ball? The contact occurred after the misplay. It had no bearing on the fielding of the ball. Jones is headed full speed in one direction (obviously since he killed the CSF player) so he's got no chance at changing direction and picking the ball up to make a play. Umps can make judgement calls.
I know, and I think the ump did make a judgement call. I just so happen to also think it was the right judgement call.
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:31 pm to Corn Dawg Nation
quote:How did the runner affect Jones missing the ball? He had already missed it and had NO chance of recovering regardless of whether he makes contact with the runner or not.
Bottom line is that the runner interfered with him fielding the ball and because of it he was called out...
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:32 pm to StatMaster
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It was a questionable call.
It wasn't a questionable call.... The defender was interfered with by a baserunner... the baserunner is out... It's cut and dry in the rules!
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:33 pm to Puffoluffagus
Alright back to studying. No point in going in circles when neither one of us is going to budge.
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:33 pm to Corn Dawg Nation
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It doesn't matter if the ball had hit Jones glove or whatever happened... Bottom line is that the runner interfered with him fielding the ball and because of it he was called out...
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How did the runner affect Jones missing the ball? He had already missed it and had NO chance of recovering regardless of whether he makes contact with the runner or not.
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:34 pm to Corn Dawg Nation
It's only interference if the contact occurs before or during the act of fielding the ball ON THE FIRST TRY!!! You don't get to misplay it and then claim interference. Once the ball is misplayed, THERE IS NO INTERFERENCE!!!
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:34 pm to Puffoluffagus
I think the call is MOOT because the Titans still needed another hit.
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:35 pm to Kal_Varnsen
It doesn't matter if you think he had no chance of recovering it... That is a subjective point... Bottom line is if the baserunner interferes with the defender making a play it's interference...... It's black and white in the rule book just for this purpose...
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:36 pm to Lester Earl
Are you referring to this rule??
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A.R. 4—If a fielder has a chance to field a batted ball, but misplays it and must chase after the ball, the fielder must avoid the runner. If contact occurs, obstruction shall be called.
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:37 pm to StatMaster
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It's only interference if the contact occurs before or during the act of fielding the ball ON THE FIRST TRY!!! You don't get to misplay it and then claim interference. Once the ball is misplayed, THERE IS NO INTERFERENCE!!!
Hence the rules regarding balls that are misplayed but still considered in the act of fielding.
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:38 pm to StatMaster
It happened so bang bang that you couldn't make that call..... Bottom line is umps got it right...
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:40 pm to Puffoluffagus
quote:Sorry, he's no longer in the act of fielding the ball when he's overrun it and the ball is behind him when he's contacting the runner. You might have a shot at this argument if he keeps the ball in front of him. Once the ball is behind him, he's just running towards air and away from the ball - not exactly "in the act of fielding".
Hence the rules regarding balls that are misplayed but still considered in the act of fielding.
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:41 pm to Golfer
Golfer
Have you ever played? If rules and laws are so easy to interpret then why do we need officials, lawyers and judges. Because there is the literal denotation of a rule/law and the connotation of said rule. Connotation being how it is applied in mainstream use. THEY ARE DIFFERENT. We don't live in a vacuum.
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The spirit of the rule? Have you ever officiated any sport??
Have you ever played? If rules and laws are so easy to interpret then why do we need officials, lawyers and judges. Because there is the literal denotation of a rule/law and the connotation of said rule. Connotation being how it is applied in mainstream use. THEY ARE DIFFERENT. We don't live in a vacuum.
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:41 pm to Corn Dawg Nation
quote:I agree. Tough call. But that's what umpires are for, right?
t happened so bang bang that you couldn't make that call
quote:According to???
Bottom line is umps got it right...
Would you be arguing the same thing if the play had happened with the teams reversed?? That is the question.
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:42 pm to DEANintheYAY
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I think the call is MOOT because the Titans still needed another hit.
True, but you know how these things go. If this doesn't happen something in cosmos occurs and Cal St. gets that next base hit.
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:43 pm to StatMaster
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Sorry, he's no longer in the act of fielding the ball when he's overrun it and the ball is behind him when he's contacting the runner. You might have a shot at this argument if he keeps the ball in front of him. Once the ball is behind him, he's just running towards air and away from the ball - not exactly "in the act of fielding".
Sorry, I'm not arguing the call at hand.
I'm laughing at the fact that you said that interference can't be called if the fielder misplays the ball.
Posted on 3/11/11 at 11:44 pm to StatMaster
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Sorry, he's no longer in the act of fielding the ball when he's overrun it and the ball is behind him when he's contacting the runner. You might have a shot at this argument if he keeps the ball in front of him. Once the ball is behind him, he's just running towards air and away from the ball - not exactly "in the act of fielding".
I think you are reading too much into the rule... It wasn't absolutely clear that he had misplayed the ball.... One could argue that he could have picked it up right underneath his glove....
I personally think there wasn't enough there for the ump not to call interference.... I think they got it right according to the rules.
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