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We are 7-6 versus the teams on Lunardi's current bracketology

Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:27 pm
Posted by Hoguester
Oxford, MS
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:27 pm
Not sure if it's been discussed yet, but I think it's interesting that of the teams currently projected in Joe Lunardi's bracketology (including the play-in games), LSU has played 13 games total and has a record of 7-6.

Team/W/L
Texas A&M 2-0
Michigan 1-0
Houston 1-0
Arkansas 2-0
Alabama 0-2
Auburn 0-1
Kentucky 0-1
Tennessee 0-1
Florida 0-1
Missouri 1-0

Total Wins/Losses for LSU vs Lunardi Bracketology teams 7-6.

Edit: thanks for the correction, Tiger fans. Not as compelling but still a winning record.
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 1:41 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:27 pm to
Stealing one of those from Bama would have put us in much better position.
Posted by El Campo Tiger
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:27 pm to
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:28 pm to
The problem is going 7-6 against teams not in the field.

ETA: I based this off the original 8-5 number. Since that's 7-6, it's 8-5 vs teams not in the field.
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 1:39 pm
Posted by saintsfan22
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:29 pm to
SI's bracket watch says we need to win 3 in the regular season and one in the SEC tourney.
Posted by Solo Cam
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

SI's bracket watch says we need to win 3 in the regular season and one in the SEC tourney.
Oh shite. We might do this.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:34 pm to
It all starts tonight.
Posted by vanillabear
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

Auburn 1-0


??
Posted by IKEtheTIGER
Prairieville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:36 pm to
7-6. We lost to Auburn.
Posted by Tigerpaul1969
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:37 pm to
Tonight is everything. Lose tonight and the dream is officially over.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:37 pm to
eta: math is hard
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Hoguester
Oxford, MS
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:42 pm to
Ha, yes it is.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:43 pm to
7-6 vs Tourney teams
8-5 vs Non-tourney teams



6-8 in conference hurts. End that 9-9 and a win in the SECT, we've got a distant shot.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

SI's bracket watch says we need to win 3 in the regular season and one in the SEC tourney.


I think even with those wins, we’re still capable of getting knocked out by another team.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:43 pm to


I messed up in that last post. Math is hard was directed at me, not you
Posted by SouthOfSouth
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

I think even with those wins, we’re still capable of getting knocked out by another team.


It's easy to say that LSU needs to win 3 +1 to get in, but in reality it matters just as much how other bubble teams fare.

But when you talk about being on the bubble it gets pretty darn difficult if you start looking at everything everyone else can do so you have to start with your team.

In reality LSU is in a group of about 20 teams where only 10 are going to get bids. They have to get their resume' into that top half. We can assume 3 +1 will get it there but if 11 other teams win all their games, guess who's not dancing?

Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 2:01 pm to
Sounds right to me. Winning out (reg season) would be amazing though.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 3:43 pm to
LSU (right now) has maybe the most interesting resume in all of the country. Their RPI is 75. That's the lowest of any potential "bubble" teams. However, they are only one of 8 teams in the nation who have 7 or more "Tier/quadrant 1" wins and they have the most wins of anybody vs. the current RPI top 25. Furthermore, 3 of those 7 wins have come away from home, and 2 of those 7 were against non-SEC teams. So they have beaten good teams inside and outside of conference play. I guess maybe the one knock is that 4 of the 7 wins have been against 2 teams (Ark and A&M).

A few weeks back the he NCAA selection committee released their top 16 teams if the tournament started on 2/11. Obviously a TON has, can and will change since that time, but it did give a bit of insight into what the committee may look at as most important in selecting the field. Those metrics seem to be:

1. number of Q1 wins
2. wins away from home
3. RPI

LSU's best argument right now is in category 1. LSU has won several games vs. really good opponents. The downside is their other wins are against weak opponents. They haven't done really anything vs. the "middle".

Also, LSU's SOS is 35. Good, but not great. Their OOC schedule is pretty weak. BUT, they did beat the two best teams on it.

Going 3-1 down the stretch gives LSU a compelling resume to consider even before they play the first game of the SECT. And that is 3-1 in any combination, even a loss to Vandy tonight. The reason is because if LSU loses to Vandy but still finishes 3-1 that would mean they beat UGA and USC on the road. Depending on how things shake out one or BOTH of those could end up being tier one wins (road wins vs. the RPI top 75 are tier one wins).

IMO, starting tonight the margin of error is 1. LSU can only sustain 1 loss over the next four. Any more, and LSU will likely have to make some significant noise in the SECT (i.e. beating 1 or 2 top 40 RPI teams) to put themselves in consideration.

Easy? NO.
Doable? Sure.

No one should EXPECT LSU to make the NCAAT. But with two weeks left in the season they are realistically in the conversation. After last season of being completely irrelevant for 3 months, I'll take it!



Posted by Hoguester
Oxford, MS
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 7:26 pm to
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 7:32 pm to
We have a very nice resume if we can just finish the regular season strong and win a game or 2 in the sec tournament. If we do that, I believe we will go to the ncaa tournament. If not, we will be nit bound. Kudos to will wade. I think he had our program heading towards a very successful future under his tutelage.
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