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re: Was Martin and Mickey leaving actually a very good thing?
Posted on 11/17/15 at 10:17 am to AlexLSU
Posted on 11/17/15 at 10:17 am to AlexLSU
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The offense may flow better against scrub teams like Kennesaw State where all the players are sub 6'5, but Martin/Mickey would definitely make this team better overall once we play decent teams with size.
What you, and many others, forget is that Ben Simmons defies traditional basketball rules. We have some possessions where we may force a play or miss a shot, but we will never be stagnant. If our offense isn't working, we will just ISO Ben. People get tired of just seeing a guy take someone off the dribble, but it's the simplest and most effective offense. The best player in basketball 1 on 1. If you don't double him, we win that battle...if you do double he will find an open man for a shot.
In short, our offense will never be stagnant and dull.
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 10:38 am
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Posted on 11/17/15 at 10:32 am to CyrustheVirus
Getting them back would have meant an obscene amount of talent on the floor for us and depth wise. As far as chemistry goes though, its anyone's guess. Would they have let Simmons come in and captain the ship??? I doubt it...
Posted on 11/17/15 at 10:35 am to CyrustheVirus
I would actually love to still have Mickey. I really enjoyed watching both Martin and Mickey play but Mickey's shot blocking presence would be great for this team. He can also get up and down the court. But who cares now because we look badass and we are still 2 good players down!
Posted on 11/17/15 at 10:46 am to Ryan3232
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This is dumb. Martin and Mickey were great at running the floor and this is what this team does well.
yea esp Martin. He was best in transition
Posted on 11/17/15 at 11:01 am to LSUButt
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What you, and many others, forget is that Ben Simmons defies traditional basketball rules. We have some possessions where we may force a play or miss a shot, but we will never be stagnant. If our offense isn't working, we will just ISO Ben. People get tired of just seeing a guy take someone off the dribble, but it's the simplest and most effective offense. The best player in basketball 1 on 1. If you don't double him, we win that battle...if you do double he will find an open man for a shot.
In short, our offense will never be stagnant and dull.
I think we are all aware of how good Ben Simmons is. I'm not talking about offense, either. We were the best rebounding team in the conference last year with Martin and Mickey, and they were #1 and #3 individually in the conference. Mickey also was #1 in blocks by a wide margin, averaging nearly four a game. To insinuate that we are better without these two guys is absurd.Posted on 11/17/15 at 11:49 am to CyrustheVirus
Simmons is martin 2.0 but nobody in this team could replace Mickey's low post threat, rebounding and shot blocking. Victor will have some of his skills but if Mickey returned our lineup would be scary
TQ
Hornsby
Simmons
Victor
Mickey.
You still have Blakeney, Sampson, Gray, Patterson, ER3 and epps on the bench. That's a top 5 team
TQ
Hornsby
Simmons
Victor
Mickey.
You still have Blakeney, Sampson, Gray, Patterson, ER3 and epps on the bench. That's a top 5 team
Posted on 11/17/15 at 11:53 am to camplsu
Yall love ragging on kids after they leave. Smdh.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 12:04 pm to CyrustheVirus
dude, no. Can you imagine our freaking depth with Mickey and Martin? I never understood this logic.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 12:14 pm to CyrustheVirus
I agree but come conference play their talents would be a nice bonus.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 12:24 pm to Clark W Griswold
Some people just want to act like things are better than before. This team is very talented, but small in the post. They have no real block shot/rebounding threat and it will hurt them big time once real games start.
I love LSU and think this team will be special, but people are really buying into the hype way too much, especially given the teams LSU has played to date this season.
Having either of those guys back would have been huge in the long term for this team this season. Anyone saying otherwise is deluding themselves.
I love LSU and think this team will be special, but people are really buying into the hype way too much, especially given the teams LSU has played to date this season.
Having either of those guys back would have been huge in the long term for this team this season. Anyone saying otherwise is deluding themselves.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:43 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
Martin and Simmons together would have been awesome. Would obviously take Mickey but his role and minutes would have to be significantly reduced to get the most out of the rest of the roster. 
Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:49 pm to Geauxgurt
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Some people just want to act like things are better than before. This team is very talented, but small in the post. They have no real block shot/rebounding threat and it will hurt them big time once real games start.
Well we'll have Victor in a few weeks. Our big men have played better than expected so far too. Robinson looks like a new player as far as quickness is concerned
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love LSU and think this team will be special, but people are really buying into the hype way too much, especially given the teams LSU has played to date this season.
So you're buying into the hype while criticizing people for doing the same?
Makes sense
This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:56 pm to Lester Earl
mickey would be great on this team as far as rebounding and blocking shots
i still wish somehow we could have landed damian jones.
i still wish somehow we could have landed damian jones.
Posted on 11/17/15 at 1:58 pm to LSU Fan 90812
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this is idiocy. the Tigers would be penciled in as title contenders had Mickey/Martin stayed.
Simmons at point-forward 3. Martin at 4. Mickey at 5.
depth for days. this team will be good. but let's not be delusional.
all of this
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:13 pm to LordoftheManor
I think we can definitively answer "No" at this point. It would have been fun to watch a team ten men deep with 5 NBA draft picks struggle to win a game in the tournament though.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:15 pm to emmanuellewis
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:16 pm to KG5989
mickey on this team would have been nice
check that, damian jones on this team would have been nice
check that, damian jones on this team would have been nice
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:18 pm to CyrustheVirus
i dont understand the logic.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:20 pm to S
Yeah Damian Jones is the real deal...
Did we even offer him?
Did we even offer him?
Posted on 11/30/15 at 8:26 pm to KG5989
yea, but M&M were higher priorities, plus damian really wanted to go to vandy's engineering program.
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