re: Was Les really ready to let Crowton go last year but not allowed?

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He's not, but he's going to make up his mind in early December, and then he's going to enroll at whichever school he picks.

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Hope you're right. Whether Crowton stays or goes, we need him to get in here early if he's going to take over the starting duties.

I also think a lot of people are just assuming Mettenberger is high on us. His comments from what I know are only that he plans to visit us for the Ole Miss game and would prefer to stay in the SEC.

I have yet to see him actually claim LSU a leader, but people want to say he's leaning to us because its such an enviable situation.

If anything, he likely has a better shot to play at Bama than here. Miles refused to even play Lee despite Jefferson's pathetic play. Why do people think Les will start a brand new player at the position only in the system for less than a year when he won't put a kid in the system for 4 years in over Jefferson on a continuous basis?

Saban has shown propensity to play QB musical chairs more than Miles. Look at the Rohan/Booty and Randall/Russell QB shuffles. That is something Miles hasn't proven to be willing to do.

Again, he went to Lee and JJ only after injuries to the other starter.

It's not as simple as people want to make it believe.

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Maybe because he realizes Lee isn't that good

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That's why Lee has outperformed Jefferson every game this year outside of the Auburn game AFTER he hurt his wrist right?

Les continues to use practice play to measure real game success according to his own words. Why would any QB think they could come in and start right away given Miles history?

Look at every position. He's never started a newcomer over a vet on the team yet until midway through the season in his 6 years here.

Brooks is a safety and cornerback, and still plays.

Montgomery didn't have an established start in his position and is basically at the same point as Edwards and Aghayere is not the same because of an injury.

Russell Shepard is only playing because if Les isn't playing him no 5* athlete would come here.

So in all this time, you have one guy that was a 5* QB that's moved to WR and the others are on defense.

So once in 6 years on offense, Les has started an offensive player over an upperclassman and it was Shepard in his second year in the system not his first year.

It won't. Did Shepard start his first year? No. He didn't.

He started his second year in the system.

Mettenberger has a lot of potential, but is playing QB not WR, which is a much easier transition and doesn't have to know as much of the playbook.

Again, believe what you want, but I seriously doubt Les starts Mettenberger and his history, more often than not is to sit them behind veterans.

As for Montgomery, again, he was in the syatem for a full year before playing not a spring.

Mathieu I will give you, but again, he's not playing QB and in charge of one side of the ball. There is a huge difference.

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Since Metenberg is going

to enroll early if he comes to LSU , would it be

possible that Crowton's (who I believe is not

normaly known as a big recruiter) job is

contingent on signing Metenberg ?

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If this is the case then Miles is dumber than I thought. Why send an inept OC to recruit a QB?

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And you know this how?

Dipshit your BS is just that BS, I usually just skip over your inanities, but since you addressed me, I will respond.

You have no idea what you are talking about on most occasions

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Same reason you "know" he's still respected in many or all coaching circles.

I know exactly what I'm talking about. The first defense in protecting vapid statements is to attack/discredit. So, with your use of a derogatory term in "inanities", one could rightfully assume this to be somewhat true.

Btw, if you think even Spurrier respects Miles, that's easy to look up.

anyone remember the mini fiasco about Steve Logan being the new OC? Not sure what happened with that either.

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jdrumdog, if there is anything we learned from the other night, it's that pretty soon you'll see OBUDan claim he's drunk posting and meaning he's not stating facts when he states "Such and such IS...."

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well, we're all guilty of presenting stuff like that as fact. That being said, it wouldn't shock me. "Ive had a few in me", etc. etc.

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He just told me that Mettenberger is going to get a fair shot at the starting job next season if he comes despite Miles' history of almost always not making changes with a new player over a vet at the same position with his only offensive example being Shepard playing as 3rd WR in his second year

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I'll take a wait and see approach on that, but Miles certainly doesn't have a long history of such.

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Yup, QB, DT, and nickel back = QB.

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2+2=chair

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He just told me that Mettenberger is going to get a fair shot at the starting job next season if he comes despite Miles' history of almost always not making changes with a new player over a vet at the same position

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Regarding Mett: Why would you recruit a JUCO QB if you didn't expect him to play early barring injury? Every JUCO player we've brought in has played a lot right off the bat. See Demetrius Bryd, Ken Adams, etc. (Akiem Hicks is not counted because of the whole violation thing. Mett is not playing if Miles were to find out someone was paying him.)