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re: was Jarmarcus Russell any different from Jarett Lee....
Posted on 11/13/08 at 12:35 pm to Texascajun4LSU
Posted on 11/13/08 at 12:35 pm to Texascajun4LSU
i thought byrd was open also! i would have like to just got the 1st and then went for the score but i wouldnt have thrown for the td aganist auburn last year either and we all know how that turned out!! Point is if Lafell somehow wouldve made the catch J Lee would be getting praises from every one of you end of discussion
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Posted on 11/13/08 at 12:38 pm to TheAntiGump
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Think about it - last year we had Flynn. Interceptions were rare.
I don't know about that one.
Posted on 11/13/08 at 12:40 pm to booduh1181
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was Jarmarcus Russell any different from Jarett Lee....
during Jamarcus' freshmen year???
Yes. Lee has been given AMPLE time to pull himself out of the tailspin he's been in. While it's been tough to watch, I actually appreciate that about Miles and Crowton. Russell, on the other hand, was handled EXTREMELY poorly by Saban and Jimbo. Russell was never given a full game that year to make or break it on his own, and it made 2005 that much harder. Lee has been given loads of time (plus a much better running game) and has yet to make any progress. JR never got that same chance to "play through it."
If the argument this year is that "Lee will be better next season because of all the playing time this year" I sure hope those of you making that agument today were saying it back in 2004. I was, and it fell largely on deaf ears.
Posted on 11/13/08 at 12:40 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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then think of Russell stepping into the Outback Bowl and leading us to what should have been a win
lawlz
Posted on 11/13/08 at 12:43 pm to GeauxTigerTM
i for one am not saying he will better because of pt this year...i am saying that he will mature because of the pt and its only a matter of time before he plays a complete game like the 2nd half at the barn
Posted on 11/13/08 at 12:48 pm to tigerbait01
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i am saying that he will mature because of the pt and its only a matter of time before he plays a complete game like the 2nd half at the barn
I hear this a lot...and there is reason to expect this. HOWEVER, it is NOT written in stone. As an LSU fan, I hope that things work out this way. That like most QB's, Lee improves with age and experience and his decision making catches up with his live arm. Yet, there is no guarantee of that. We could every well be seeing the QB that Lee will always be. Because of that, I won;t assume we'll see anything other than what we have so far...and hope for the best.
But I was answering the OP question. Lee has been given TONS of time to pull out, and he hasn't. Russell was never given that kind of time and there were TONS of bitching about him. Hell...some STILL bitch about him, even with what we are watching this year.
Posted on 11/13/08 at 12:55 pm to GeauxTigerTM
i agree i think we are on the same page...i just see his potential but it isnt what russell's was i think everyone knows that. and yes russell was hounded and still is from time to time but im not going to bash our qb ever!
Posted on 11/13/08 at 12:57 pm to tigerbait01
JR wasn't the man as a redshirt freshman. When he was having a bad game he was pulled. In addition the defense was more consistent and the offense could tackle when we had a interception.
Posted on 11/13/08 at 1:02 pm to roygu
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and the offense could tackle when we had a interception.
Are people really going to try to make this argument?
This post was edited on 11/13/08 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 11/13/08 at 1:14 pm to rocket32484
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You couldnt throw a ball 15 yds if you tried, much less with the pressure this kid has!
I'm hearing this argument a lot lately, and it's completely irrelevent to the discussion. you're right, pretty much every single one of us fans are in no way as athletically gifted as Jarrett Lee on his worst day. But that doesn't make me blind to some of the things that have happened this season.
I sincerely hope he improves and I've got to believe that he will.
Posted on 11/13/08 at 1:31 pm to booduh1181
JR had this thing called being "clutch". 
Posted on 11/13/08 at 2:21 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
I agree that the fact that none of us could throw it 15 yards is irrvelevant, we are not the ones going to college for free because of how we throw. JL lacks the fundementals that JR even as a freshman did decently. JL dosent set his feet, he telegraphs his passes, and at times looks completely incapable of reading the defense. young JR>> young JL
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