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re: Wait, what was that you were saying CJJ haters?

Posted on 1/6/16 at 7:34 am to
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/6/16 at 7:34 am to
3 division titles, 2 conference titles, 2 national championship appearances, 1 national championship, a 78% winning percentage. Other than that, they are pretty equal.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/6/16 at 7:46 am to
So there arent teams that rebuild almost every year? Good teams than win with majority freshmen? Hmmm...my bad man, I thought they were.

I watched several runs deep into the trny by LSU....back to back.

I expect that you are very young and connected to Jones in some way. I admire your passion, regardless of how misdirected it is. I am all for johnny Jones doing well at LSU.

I've been following LSU basketball since hi c was here..its going to take more than winning a couple games to win over people like me. He needs to win trny games. Its not that difficult to finish in the top 70 in the nation. What do you do when you get there? Blow huge second half leads? Again...I admire your passion but JJ hasn't accomplished jack shite at LSU yet. Here's to hoping he does.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/6/16 at 7:53 am to
Again, you keep acting like LSU is some perennial bottom feeding basketball program. It isn't. There is plenty of talent to be had here and much success in the past. Trent Johnson sucked. Johnny Jones won't be here much longer unless he can right the ship...they have put together a couple good games...let's hope it continues.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/6/16 at 8:02 am to
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Again, you keep acting like LSU is some perennial bottom feeding basketball program. It isn't.


Perennial? No. Once again though, we've made back to back tourney appearances once in 20+ years

And we were a bottom feeders when JJ took over. That was our 4th sellout since 2000

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There is plenty of talent to be had here 


With a good coach. This isn't 2006 where the talent was thrown into our lap.

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Johnny Jones won't be here much longer unless he can right the ship...t


If someone told you in 2010 that the program would be in the current state, would you have been disappointed?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 1/6/16 at 8:05 am to
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So there arent teams that rebuild almost every year?


You mean reload? This isn't the 90's, LSU bball is not Kenutcky or Duke

Rebuilding the LSU program is a tough job

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I watched several runs deep into the trny by LSU....back to back.



When?

LSU hasn't had a year where they advanced in the tourney back to back years since 1986 and 1987


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ts going to take more than winning a couple games to win over people like me. He needs to win trny games. Its not that difficult to finish in the top 70 in the nation. What do you do when you get there? Blow huge second half leads? Again...I admire your passion but JJ hasn't accomplished jack shite at LSU yet. Here's to hoping he does.


It is a process, and I haven't really defended JJ for this season.

We've improved every year, brought talent in, and got back into the tourney. We finished 3rd in the conference last year and almost equaled our 3 year total in conference wins from before he was hired.

SO FAR, he's met the rebuilding expectations and put us back in the tourney. Lets see what he can do this year to build on it.

This post was edited on 1/6/16 at 8:07 am
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/6/16 at 8:06 am to
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Go blow a goat
yeah. great mature response. and that definitely proves jones is awesome.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/6/16 at 8:09 am to
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I will never understand you fricks.
you don't understand people being frustrated at 9-5 with some awful losses despite having simmons and alot of talent?

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LSU just beat the #9 team in the country, a basketball powerhouse that won the NC in 2012, was runner-up in 2014 and Final 4 team last year
uk was terrible last night. lsu did what they were supposed to do but, jones supporters are acting like lsu just beat last year's team. plus, vandy appears to be in a slump right now. i'm glad the team is moving in the right direction but, there's no reason to overstate the 2 wins.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 1/6/16 at 8:23 am to
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you don't understand people being frustrated at 9-5 with some awful losses despite having simmons and alot of talent?


Most of those losses have come in the absence of 2 of our best 3 players

And I have zero issues with being frustrated with this season so far. You've gone past that.

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but, there's no reason to overstate the 2 wins.


There is no reason to shite on these big two wins either. It's pathetic.

If you're going to criticize and throw tantrums when the team plays poorly, give them props and acknowledge good play
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:01 am to
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It's a lot more important how a team plays in the SEC, in January, and February than how they play in December. Apparently, you are the one who doesn't know what he's talking about if you don't know that.
it's like you've forgotten 10 months ago. lsu's results were compared to teams with similar results. what got lsu in were the nice ooc road wins. dec matters and right now, lsu is not in good shape even after beating a slumping vandy team and super inconsistent uk team.

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2-0 in the SEC with a road win at Vandy and knocking off #9 Kentucky is a crappy job?
yes. this season has been crappy even with this week. apparently you aren't aware of how bad it is. it's been reported in the national news multiple times what an awful job jones is doing and how he's squandering simmons. basically everybody knows about it except for you apparently.

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Typical retard over reaction to a team just getting all its parts together
nothing i posted is not factual so it's stupid for you to call me names. moreover, this team might be "getting it together" but that might not be enough to make the tourney and that's what the discussion is about. they dug a hole so deep they might not be able to climb out of it. but keep your head in the sand.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:07 am to
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this doesn't seem like a typical ky team
i've been watching uk for about 30 years and last night was one of the worst uk games i've seen in a long, long time. but hey, it's uk right? jones is a genius all of the sudden

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they will likely need to go 14-4 to even make the NCAA trny
it's not just that. they have to have the right wins. they need to crush the schedule, beat all the best teams and win the road games. that's a MOUNTAIN.

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Please stop with the "Jones is great" theme. Great win, but he has been far from great and anyone with a clue knows it.
no, no. groupee and drizz called me a retard and ingnorant. those are impressive arguments, you've got to admit.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:11 am to
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If we keep the SEC losses to a half dozen or so, we're in
it's alot more complicated than that. what other teams do in and out of conference will be a part of what happens to lsu. 6 conference losses is probably not going to be good enough, no matter who they're to or where they are played.

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The presence of Simmons buys us a little forgiveness for our not-at-full-strength losses.
now this might actually be true. if lsu can look really impressive, the committee might forgive the early roster issues to get simmons in the tourney. ratings!
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:11 am to
Yes..if someone told me in 2010 that we won't win a trny game for at least 6 years...you damn right I would be disappointed..especially coming off 2006 and 2009. You need to let go of this back to back loss crap. It isn't as significant as you think. We didn't have a contender either year. Yay we got there one of seventy teams.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:14 am to
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Posters like you are worse than negatigers. Instead of posting a positive thread celebrating the win, you'd rather create more negativity by further dividing the fanbase.
what the? i got called ignorant and a retard because i was being rational and objective about this week. the whole point of the op was to call out people who have been critical of jones even though the criticism was justified so, you've got the situation backwards.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:22 am to
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Go back and reread what I posted
i understood it just fine the first time.

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His best attribute as a coach is his recruiting abilities, and you're penalizing him for it
no, he's penalizing himself and some people are calling him out for it. he trots out a respectable team for 2+ seasons and bumbles his way to ZERO tourney wins and alot of bad losses.

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but the year to year improvement of the program, until this season, has been consistent with reasonable expectations of rebuilding our terrible program.
you and i see reality quite differently. jones has sucked. he hasn't won even ONE tourney game. NOT ONE. finally got in and blew a huge 2nd half lead against a better than average acc team. ridiculous. oh and the game before that, he blew a lead against a crappy auburn team playing it's 3rd game in less than 48 hours. i can't understand why people like you are giving him a pass for sucking.

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He's done an outstanding job of bringing guys in, which should be applauded
lsu did not hire him to merely bring players in. that's a recruiting coordinator and he would be great at that.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:24 am to
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you keep acting like LSU is some perennial bottom feeding basketball program. It isn't
did you hear the stat that dale beat uk 18 times? lsu had a really solid program and made the tourney pretty much every year with a nice run here and there. in my mind, that's what lsu should be. win tourney games more often than not. then we hire a coach who has never won a tourney game in 12 years of being a head coach. brilliant.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:27 am to
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This isn't 2006 where the talent was thrown into our lap.
you can say that if you want but, the last 2 seasons, jones has had very, very respectable talent. top 4 (13-14) and top 2 (14-15) sec talent. the results weren't even close to matching the roster. brady went to the final 4 with that team.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:29 am to
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SO FAR, he's met the rebuilding expectations and put us back in the tourney
those are some low, low expectations.

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Lets see what he can do this year to build on it
THAT'S THE PROBLEM. he's going backwards, since the sec tourney last season.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/6/16 at 9:31 am to
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Most of those losses have come in the absence of 2 of our best 3 players
most of those losses came to vastly inferior teams that lsu should have beaten. look at the way lsu played with simmons on the bench. lsu should have played that way when they were out of the lineup early on.

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There is no reason to shite on these big two wins either. It's pathetic.
i'm not doing that. i'm being objective that vandy is in a slump with an unimpressive record and uk is very inconsistent.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/6/16 at 10:10 am to
so....according to today's espn rpi, lsu is 114. 114! even with the 2 greatest wins in lsu history. vandy is an uninspiring 8-6 sitting at #70. that's not really helping lsu. lsu is behind ferocious teams like #72 Auburn 7-6, #100 Tennessee 7-6 and #106 Arkansas 7-7. even georgia is at #53 and they're 7-4. fla has almost the same record as lsu and they're #21. everybody needs to pump the brakes on beating vandy and uk. lsu has a MOUNTAIN to climb.

oh and you can stop saying "be patient" and "the team will jell." there isn't time for that anymore.
Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 1/6/16 at 12:27 pm to
Lol sorry, two good games. Forget the 5 bad games, and I don't give a shite about an up vote or down vote. I am just voicing my opinion. I don't expect everyone to like what I say. Whether you consider yourself a sunshine blow hard, or a nega tiger, we all want LSU to win and succeed , so it doesn't matter.
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