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Unwinnable position with Coach 0

Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:11 am
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7001 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:11 am
All legitimate head coaches have extensive experience on one side of the ball and then balance that with a strong coordinator to take the lead on the other side of the ball.

With Matt Canada on his way out and Dave Aranda on the clock for a head job at some point soon, Coach 0 having never been a coordinator on either side of the ball is playing out the horror story some knew would happen.

Instead of replacing coordinators every year, it would be much better to get rid of the real problems in the program...Aleva and his funny talking sidekick.


Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
8898 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:12 am to
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All legitimate head coaches have extensive experience on one side of the ball and then balance that with a strong coordinator to take the lead on the other side of the ball.


This is not true. Not only that, CEO has extensive experience on the defensive side of the ball.
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
8586 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:12 am to
Agreed.

It's time to move on from O and Alleva next season
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7001 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:13 am to
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This is not true. Not only that, CEO has extensive experience on the defensive side of the ball.




Yes, it absolutely is the case. Name a high profile coach at any level that does not have expertise on one side or the other...
Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
3374 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:14 am to
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It's time to move on from O and Alleva next season




Thank God people like you have no voice outside a free message board.
Posted by lovinLSU
lafayette
Member since Nov 2007
13878 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:14 am to
Dude, you sound like you are on suicide watch...nobody gives a frick about your comments...get a life man.....
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9035 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:15 am to
That is pure BS. Good programs go after the best OCs/DCs regardless of who the HC is.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 10:22 am
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7001 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:29 am to
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Good programs go after the best OCs/DCs regardless of who the HC is.


Yeah, but EVERY high profile program outside of LSU has a head coach that can weigh in significantly on at least one side of the equation.

Why the hell do you think LSU was forced to make Canada and Aranda the highest paid coordinators in the college game?
Posted by Terry the Tiger
Cypress, Texas
Member since Jul 2009
3494 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:33 am to
I have heard this shite about how having a CEO-style head coach is stupid in spite of that being the way most programs are going. Malzahn realized a couple of years ago that he needed an OC to call plays so that he could focus more on the other aspects for the team. Kiffin went to FAU and immediately hired an OC to take over the play calling duties.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66363 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:37 am to
Difference between play calling and running an offense.

Kiffin has his play book he has an offensive identify and can come up with a game plan.

We’re running Dave Aranda’s defense the way Dave Aranda wants to run it.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 10:38 am
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:39 am to
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All legitimate head coaches have extensive experience on one side of the ball and then balance that with a strong coordinator to take the lead on the other side of the ball



Is that true?

Was Dabo ever a coordinator?


I don't think it is mandatory that someone have extensive experience on one side of the ball.

But I also think only a damn fool would hire someone with Os career record.
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
8838 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:40 am to
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Yes, it absolutely is the case. Name a high profile coach at any level that does not have expertise on one side or the other.

How about the defending National Champion head coach who has had his team in the last two title games and is one win away from a third straight, and two wins away from a repeat. After Nick Saban, undoubtedly the most successful head coach in the college game of late. Dabo Swinney was a fricking wide receiver coach before becoming head coach.

You stupid motherfricker, so fricking confident you’re right and the hottest current coach in the game fits right into the criteria you presented. And it’s so cute how you assholes use the 0 instead of the O when talking about Orgeron.

frick all of you miserable cocksuckers.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 10:42 am
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:42 am to
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Yes, it absolutely is the case. Name a high profile coach at any level that does not have expertise on one side or the other...


Dabo.
Dabo literally blows up this argument and O was hired specifically to be LSUs Dabo.
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Allen, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7001 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:46 am to
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I have heard this shite about how having a CEO-style head coach is stupid in spite of that being the way most programs are going. Malzahn realized a couple of years ago that he needed an OC to call plays so that he could focus more on the other aspects for the team. Kiffin went to FAU and immediately hired an OC to take over the play calling duties.



Yeah, everyone has the best coordinators that can get...but the head coach also has the ability to provide legitimate guidance. Coach 0's guidance resulted in a loss to Troy and the exit of the offensive coordinator.

BTW, CEOs in any walk of life are experts in some aspects within their chosen fields...LSU's "CEO" is not.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
8898 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:49 am to
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Yes, it absolutely is the case. Name a high profile coach at any level that does not have expertise on one side or the other...


Ok I'll name the best 2 coaches not named Nick Saban:

Dabo Sweeney was never a Coordinator.

Urban Meyer was never a coordinator AND his teams always take a step back when he loses good OC's.

Posted by ranger350
CutOff
Member since Jul 2011
857 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:58 am to
calm down, wal mart is having a sale on pacifiers and depend diapers.go pick some up.
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
8838 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:03 am to
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BTW, CEOs in any walk of life are experts in some aspects within their chosen fields...LSU's "CEO" is not

Oh and now Orgeron isn’t an “expert” at anything. Doesn’t know about defensive line or recruiting. Keep digging a-hole. You might be the dumbest motherfricker on this board.
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4452 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:06 am to
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Yes, it absolutely is the case. Name a high profile coach at any level that does not have expertise on one side or the other...


Dabo Swinney
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4452 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:15 am to
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Yeah, but EVERY high profile program outside of LSU has a head coach that can weigh in significantly on at least one side of the equation.


There are two teams playing in the playoffs that have HC that were never coordinators. Ohio St and Clemson. YOu can drop that brilliant assessment immediately.

quote:

Why the hell do you think LSU was forced to make Canada and Aranda the highest paid coordinators in the college game?


Don't be an idiot. Nobody has forced LSU to do anything. LSU elected to open up the bank in an attempt to attract the best staff possible.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66363 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 11:18 am to
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Was Dabo ever a coordinator?


No but I thinknhe Has more to do with the offense than people give him credit for.

Like Urban was never a coordinator but that’s Urban’s offense his OCs are calling.
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