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Posted on 3/24/09 at 2:51 pm to TheDoc
Amen
Posted on 3/24/09 at 2:59 pm to MightyYat
quote:And you are saying that it is impossible for Lee to become the better QB and win the starting job without Jefferson getting hurt. So there's no "try" about it; you're arguing a stupid opinion.
The argument isn't will JL get better, it's who will start. So again, nice try.
quote:No, dipshit. Doc has been playing the race card all along. I was merely pointing out how absurd it was since the irrational attitudes in this thread are AGAINST the white guy.
Did you just seriously pull the fricking race card?
Posted on 3/24/09 at 3:02 pm to tigersnsaints
quote:
King Joey, you make us non-racist whites look bad.
Yeah, that's what it is. I think Jordan Jefferson will most likely win the starting job because I'm a racist. No, wait, I'm a racist because I think one player who was worse than another player might possibly be able to overtake him by improving more from one season to another. Is that it? Help me out here; I'm having trouble following the "logic" of the Rantards who insist it is impossible for one player to overtake another from one season to the next. 
Posted on 3/24/09 at 3:03 pm to King Joey
quote:
And you are saying that it is impossible for Lee to become the better QB and win the starting job without Jefferson getting hurt. So there's no "try" about it; you're arguing a stupid opinion.
No, just that Lee won't beat out JJ BEFORE September, NOT that JL won't get better. How the frick can you not comprehend this??
Posted on 3/24/09 at 3:05 pm to TheDoc
quote:True. Furthermore, anyone with a brain (which used to include TheDoc):
most LSU fans:
jarrett lee, a redshirt freshmen, sucked overall
jordan jefferson, a true freshmen, didn't.
It is possible for one player who was worse than another player one year to surpass him and become the better player the next year.
Thus, most LSU fans with a brain:
Jordan Jefferson is more likely to be the starter come September, but it is possible for Lee to beat him out even without an injury.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 3:07 pm to MightyYat
quote:Right. You insist that that is impossible. That's a completely stupid opinion because it obviously is possible. The rational opinion would be to say that it is [b]unlikely[/i], not impossible. Which is exactly what I have been saying all along.
No, just that Lee won't beat out JJ BEFORE September
Posted on 3/24/09 at 3:07 pm to King Joey
quote:
Jordan Jefferson is more likely to be the starter come September, but it is possible for Lee to beat him out even without an injury.
And I still say not it's not. Miles isn't stupid.
eta: I hope you're not a trial lawyer homey. Your debate skills are poo poo.
This post was edited on 3/24/09 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 3/24/09 at 3:12 pm to MightyYat
quote:How can you not comprehend that there are millions of things that can occur besides an injury between now and September? And yet you continue to insist that there is no sequence of events over the next 4 months -- other than an injury to Jefferson -- that could possibly occur to make Coach Miles conclude that Lee should be the starter over Jefferson. No amount of improvement from Lee, or backsliding by Jefferson, or anything else, could possibly occur by September that would lead Coach Miles to make that choice, right?
How the frick can you not comprehend this??
Let me put it to you this way: is it conceivable to you that Lee might be just exactly the caliber of QB in '09 that he was in '08?
Is it conceivable to you that Jefferson might improve from '08 to '09?
Is it conceivable to you that Jefferson's improvement from '08 to '09 might be by an even wider margin of quality than separated Jefferson and Lee in '08?
Posted on 3/24/09 at 3:13 pm to MightyYat
quote:This isn't a debate. A debate takes place between two rational premises. There is only one rational premisis here, and it's not yours.
Your debate skills are poo poo.
This is an attempt at enlightenment, and it is a herculean task to illuminate the darkness of this ignorance.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 3:14 pm to King Joey
Whatever happened to the talk of Russell Shephard splitting time at QB?
I know he's probably going to play at reciever during the season.
But people seem to have kept him out of the talk..
I know he's probably going to play at reciever during the season.
But people seem to have kept him out of the talk..
Posted on 3/24/09 at 3:14 pm to King Joey
quote:
How can you not comprehend that there are millions of things that can occur besides an injury between now and September? And yet you continue to insist that there is no sequence of events over the next 4 months -- other than an injury to Jefferson -- that could possibly occur to make Coach Miles conclude that Lee should be the starter over Jefferson. No amount of improvement from Lee, or backsliding by Jefferson, or anything else, could possibly occur by September that would lead Coach Miles to make that choice, right?
Let me put it to you this way: is it conceivable to you that Lee might be just exactly the caliber of QB in '09 that he was in '08?
Is it conceivable to you that Jefferson might improve from '08 to '09?
Is it conceivable to you that Jefferson's improvement from '08 to '09 might be by an even wider margin of quality than separated Jefferson and Lee in '08?
For the record Your Honor, I would like to add "arrest" to that list of possibilities. If JJ gets arrested JL will start. There, you happy now?
Posted on 3/24/09 at 3:18 pm to LSU Jeff Buc10
quote:Heh. That would require far too much mental flexibility for this crowd. Anything beyond "JEFFERSON MUST START!!! ARP! ARP! ARP! JARRETT LEE SUCKS!!! ARP! ARP! ARP!" is beyond their grasp.
Whatever happened to the talk of Russell Shephard splitting time at QB?
I would not be surprised at all if Shepard saw some time at QB this year, but I would be surprised if it was more than just the occassional trick play/mop up duty. Judging from the way RP was handled, I believe there is a signficant chance Shepard might be redshirted if both Jefferson and Lee shape up, and Miles actually thinks Shepard has a future at QB.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 3:19 pm to MightyYat
I'll bet Shepard gets more snaps under center than Lee does this season...barring injury
Posted on 3/24/09 at 3:21 pm to TheDoc
quote:
jarrett lee, a redshirt freshmen, sucked overall
jordan jefferson, a true freshmen, didn't.
Based on one game that he had a month to prepare for? Come on man, you people are smarter than that. He may end up being all world but I think most of you are jumping the gun here. JL had one good game against Auburn and look how that turned out.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 3:22 pm to MightyYat
quote:Well, I guess that's a possibility, though I've seen nothing to suggest that's any more of a concern regarding Jefferson than Lee. But, you are at least opening your mind to possibilities, so good job!
For the record Your Honor, I would like to add "arrest" to that list of possibilities. If JJ gets arrested JL will start.
quote:I was happy before I got up this morning, and (God willing) I'll be happy when I go to bed. Who our starting QB may or may not be will not even be a factor in my happiness until opening day.
There, you happy now?
Posted on 3/24/09 at 3:33 pm to King Joey
quote:
This is an attempt at enlightenment, and it is a herculean task to illuminate the darkness of this ignorance.
I appreciate your attempt, but I believe you're just pissing in the wind. They either do not have the intellectual honesty or (more likely) the intellectual capacity to be enlightened. They actually think they are out-witting us in this "debate" which is both hilarious and sad. Mainly sad, though.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 3:40 pm to King Joey
damn King Joey...you sure do like to type a lot...this is my first day on the rant...it kind of looks like this rant thing is your life.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 3:40 pm to Hot Carl
quote:
I appreciate your attempt, but I believe you're just pissing in the wind. They either do not have the intellectual honesty or (more likely) the intellectual capacity to be enlightened. They actually think they are out-witting us in this "debate" which is both hilarious and sad. Mainly sad, though.
Very piss poor Carl. It's not an attempt to "out-wit" anyone. I'm merely saying you and anyone else that thinks JL will just overtake JJ this Spring might want to question their own intellectual capacity every now and then.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 3:47 pm to MightyYat
quote:
I'm merely saying you and anyone else that thinks JL will just overtake JJ this Spring
I don't think that. In fact, I think the opposite. I like Jefferson better, liked him better last year, and think he will probably be better this coming season. The key word there is "think." I don't "know." And I'm open to the possibility that shite happens. Especially in football. The fact that you retards keep insisting I want or think Lee will start when I have never said anything remotely resembling that is what is so sad.
quote:
might want to question their own intellectual capacity every now and then.
If you can dig up a quote by me where I said Jarrett Lee will start, I will concede intellectual superiority to you. Good luck.
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