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Posted on 3/24/09 at 1:16 pm to tojo
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You are the one who is a stupid perverted moron.
hey the village called, they want their idiot back old man.
your act is tired.
come up with a new insult, shite...
Posted on 3/24/09 at 1:17 pm to REMY1
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I hope Lee has a positive role
me too.
quote:
just waiting on the Flynn comparisons to start.
I don't think it'll be so bad this time around.
but certainly wouldn't be surprised.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 1:22 pm to MightyYat
quote:But ZERO possibility that he could simply improve more and become the better QB. You are saying that cannot possibly happen. And that is silly.
Exactly, leaving the POSSIBILITY of JJ getting hurt.
quote:I've answered the question many times before. I'd start Jefferson.
If you had to win the opening game this year solely based of your memory of the two QBs who would YOU opt to put on the field? Not starting shite, just asking an honest question.
But what in the hell does that have to do with the point here? Do you even listen to yourself? Do you even hear how crazy that question is? "[S]olely based on your memory of the two QBs"? Do you honestly think that is how the coaches choose their starters? "Hey, Gary, which one of these guys do you remember being better last year?" Or better yet, "Hey, call one of those guys from the Rant, and ask him which QB HE remembers being better last year!"
Fortunately, there are things like the offseason and practice, which give our coaches an opportunity to evaluate the players and decide which one will be the starter.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 1:23 pm to TheDoc
quote:For the umpteent time, Doc, I will tell you AGAIN that I would choose Jefferson. So will you please listen this time and quit pretending like you think I would pick Lee?
based on what we have all seen, if you were the coach, and washington was tomorrow, who would you have starting at QB for LSU?
Posted on 3/24/09 at 1:26 pm to King Joey
while I agree with that, practice is not always a good indicator on how someone will perform in a live game.
we've seen this many times...
1. rohan
2. mauck
3. russell (in 2004)
4. jefferson/lee/hatch 2008
we've seen this many times...
1. rohan
2. mauck
3. russell (in 2004)
4. jefferson/lee/hatch 2008
Posted on 3/24/09 at 1:30 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:Yes. Like the "experience" Jacob Hester had, that absolutely meant he had to be the starter over Keiland, right? Or the "experience" Craig Nall had over Rohan, that meant he had to be the starter, right? Or the "experience" Jarrett Lee had more of than Jefferson going into the Ole Miss game, right?
Yes, it's called 'experience'. Ever heard of it?
Experience does *not* give you points the next year. Experience gives a player more chance to improve, and thus gives a greater chance of becoming better. But it does not, nor has it ever, automatically translated into performance the following season.
quote:And you are arguing that it is absolutely impossible for anything else to be true. I get that. I understand what you mean. You believe that Jefferson was better when you saw him and therefore you believe it absolutely must be true forever and that no power in heaven or on Earth could ever, possibly change that reality. I get it. It's just a silly belief.
I just happen to believe that Jefferson will be better than Lee from what I've seen.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 1:33 pm to RobbBobb
quote:Who is "defending Lee"? This isn't about defending Lee. This is about stupid assertions that some people on here keep making about there only being one possibility in the QB race, and that there can be absolutely no possibility that anyone other than Jefferson could win the starting job.
That is what I gather that most people who are defending Lee are trying to say
Posted on 3/24/09 at 1:36 pm to MightyYat
quote:Yeah, that long TD he threw against Auburn looked real timid.
He looked very timid in the pocket last year.
Oh, wait, I forgot, only his mistakes count, and he can never improve on them. Gotcha!
Posted on 3/24/09 at 1:40 pm to MightyYat
quote:If I'm a college football coach and my job is on the line in March, I've got moronic administration and am looking for a new job anyway. But if I wanted to keep my job, the last thing I would do is to determine in March who the starter will be (at any position) for a game that won't be played until September. And I sure as hell would not choose my starters by simply watching last year's tape and saying, "well, that guy looked better last year; he MUST be the best guy!"
I wouldn't put it in those words but if my job is on the line RIGHT NOW JJ is going in.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 1:42 pm to King Joey
Jarett Lee should definitely start. Did you see that pass he through in the Auburn game? WOW...i think he should start just because of that pass
Posted on 3/24/09 at 1:43 pm to tigersnsaints
quote:Can't happen. Haven't you heard? Some of the Ranters have gotten together and altered the laws of time and physics, so that Jefferson's performance is permanently preserved at the "1st half vs. Georgia Tech" level forever. So there's absolutely no possibility that he could ever be any different than that.
routinely starts throwing pics
Posted on 3/24/09 at 1:46 pm to King Joey
i don't think Jefferson's going to be better this year. After gaining 15 pounds of muscle and having quality game experience last season, I truly believe he will be worst and Lee will be better and the starter
Posted on 3/24/09 at 1:48 pm to King Joey
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Yeah, that long TD he threw against Auburn looked real timid
he was being hit as he threw the ball.
more than likely, he just got lucky with that pass.
just saying
and even if he meant to throw it exactly right there, it's ONE pass.
he looked like a scared little kid most of the season.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 1:49 pm to tigersnsaints
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i don't think Jefferson's going to be better this year. After gaining 15 pounds of muscle and having quality game experience last season, I truly believe he will be worst and Lee will be better and the starter
people keep saying "well what if jarrett lee is a ton better? players get better don't they?"
well, what if jordan jefferson gets a ton better too?
rarely, is this point made.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 1:56 pm to TheDoc
quote:And we've also seen that previous years' performance is not necessarily an indicator of the next year's performance:
while I agree with that, practice is not always a good indicator on how someone will perform in a live game.
we've seen this many times...
1. Justin Vincent '03/'04
2. Josh Booty '99/'00
3. Jamie Howard '94/'95
4. Matthew Stafford '06/'07
5. Trent Green '00/'01/'02
etc.
You've already admitted that you realize Lee has a chance of becoming a better QB than Jefferson, Doc. Why are you trying to argue for the people here insisting he doesn't?
Posted on 3/24/09 at 1:59 pm to TheDoc
quote:Because no one is stupid enough to suggest it's impossible for Jefferson to improve dramatically. For some reason, it's only the white guy who is deemed incapable of dramatic improvement. Got any "theories" to explain that one?
well, what if jordan jefferson gets a ton better too?
rarely, is this point made.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 2:08 pm to King Joey
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But ZERO possibility that he could simply improve more and become the better QB. You are saying that cannot possibly happen. And that is silly.
The argument isn't will JL get better, it's who will start. So again, nice try.
quote:
Because no one is stupid enough to suggest it's impossible for Jefferson to improve dramatically. For some reason, it's only the white guy who is deemed incapable of dramatic improvement. Got any "theories" to explain that one?
Did you just seriously pull the fricking race card? You're a douche for a ton of other reasons but this one may be your best work.
Posted on 3/24/09 at 2:33 pm to King Joey
quote:
King Joey
Posted on 3/24/09 at 2:45 pm to TheDoc
King Joey, you make us non-racist whites look bad.
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