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re: Unglesby to ask Les to lift JJ's suspension (with link)
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:08 am to Antonio Moss
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:08 am to Antonio Moss
You guys are amazing....you guys are using this incident(the fight) as cover for your disdain for this kid. "He should just go away and stop being a distraction" is hilarious to me....he is not a distraction to the team.....the like him and want him around......he is a distraction to yall because he poses a threat to your aggenda of playing "your" QB..........some of you would rather lose with JL behind center versus win with JJ behind center.....bar fight or no bar fight......and please spare me with the negative publicity angle....Everyone I have spoke to that don't live in the immediate area and has no aggenda is trying to figure out how this got so big....over a bar fight....
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:09 am to Jester
quote:
Yeah, that's exactly it. LSU is on a pedestal in the legislature and will remain that way.
swing and a miss. Wow you really are a complete fricking moron, aren't you?
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:09 am to TIGRLEE
quote:
I dont think charges would have been brought on JJ or JJOhns if they didnt have something concrete.
Thats JMO.
Because people are never found not guilty and charges are never dropped after the fact.
You guys have way too much faith in the police.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:10 am to TheDoc
quote:
Lsu does bit want national media referring the the starting qb as a felon on national tv
Legal tip of the day: You have to be convicted of a felony in order to be a felon.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:11 am to Larry Hollins
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jj lawyer is (and should) do whats in the best interest of his client. his attitude should be if lsu doesn't care about jj then i don't care about the football team this year.
THIS! Unglesby is not trying to bring down LSU. He is trying to represent his client, JORDAN JEFFERSON.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:11 am to TIGRLEE
quote:
I dont think charges would have been brought on JJ or JJOhns if they didnt have something concrete.
Thats JMO.
Nobody cares what you think, Mrs. Lee.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:12 am to TheDoc
quote:lol wut?
And it doesn't bother you that this lawyer and JJ are gearing up to try and take down LSU and miles?
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:12 am to Antonio Moss
quote:
Because people are never found not guilty and charges are never dropped after the fact.
You guys have way too much faith in the police.
Charges dont get dropped when the police have concrete evidence that another person did what they are charging him/her with.
Thats my point.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:12 am to TIGRLEE
quote:
I dont think charges would have been brought on JJ or JJOhns if they didnt have something concrete.
Thats JMO.
If they had something concrete Hillar would have gone ahead with sending it to trial. He's unsure, hence the grand jury approach.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:13 am to CptBengal
quote:
swing and a miss. Wow you really are a complete fricking moron, aren't you?
I can tell by your language that you subliminally understand that you are wrong. Like a cornered cat.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:13 am to junkfunky
For all of you bickering back and forth about is he or is he not a felon, I posted this a while back (yes i know its actual facts, so most people don't care about it)
JJ is already guilty of several of the items listed in this code of conduct for students, and could be removed from school given these grounds.
Cant play ball if your not a student.
See section 8.2
Copied for those to lazy to read the link
JJ is already guilty of several of the items listed in this code of conduct for students, and could be removed from school given these grounds.
Cant play ball if your not a student.
See section 8.2
Copied for those to lazy to read the link
quote:
1. Convicted of a felony in a state or federal court;
2. Formally charged by civil authorities with the commission
of a crime of such nature that the student's continued presence at the
University potentially threatens the property, health, safety, or well being of
members of the University community;
3. Believed by the Dean or designee to have committed a crime of such nature
that his or her continued presence at the University potentially threatens the
property, health, safety, or well being of the University community, but civil
authorities have not brought charges or imposed penalties;
4. The subject of an agency arrest, including being charged with a
misdemeanor offense;
5. Believed by the Dean or designee to have committed any act of violence that,
by its very nature, indicates the individual might present a threat to the
security and safety of the University community;
6. Believed by the Dean or designee to have committed any acts of violence or
harassment, perpetrated by a student upon one or more other members of the
University community. Physical abuse (including threats of) stalking, sexual
assault, dangerous conduct, and hazing are all considered to be acts of
violence;
7. Found to have committed acts which by their very nature are detrimental to
the educational mission of the University;
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:13 am to Geaux2002
i'm all about team sweep but you just can't lift the suspension. it sets a bad precedent. it just doesn't look good.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:13 am to junkfunky
quote:
Legal tip of the day: The media doesn't abide by your tips.
fify.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:14 am to TIGRLEE
quote:
Charges dont get dropped when the police have concrete evidence that another person did what they are charging him/her with.
Thats my point.
Your point is stupid. You use the fact that he was charged as proof that the case won't be dropped? Delusional.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:14 am to Antonio Moss
1. Maybe because he is guilty.
2. If he plays until he is found guilty, there is no punishment for him because the season would be over by the time the verdict is read.
3. The distraction off the field that would affect him and the team on the field.
4. LSU looks like a foolish for letting a convicted felon play on its football team.
5. Who gives a crap. He is not that good anyway.
Let this season be remembered for the great student athletes that work hard for their team and their school.
Jefferson is all about Jefferson.
2. If he plays until he is found guilty, there is no punishment for him because the season would be over by the time the verdict is read.
3. The distraction off the field that would affect him and the team on the field.
4. LSU looks like a foolish for letting a convicted felon play on its football team.
5. Who gives a crap. He is not that good anyway.
Let this season be remembered for the great student athletes that work hard for their team and their school.
Jefferson is all about Jefferson.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:15 am to LSU-MNCBABY
quote:
1. Convicted of a felony in a state or federal court;
2. Formally charged by civil authorities with the commission
of a crime of such nature that the student's continued presence at the
University potentially threatens the property, health, safety, or well being of
members of the University community;
3. Believed by the Dean or designee to have committed a crime of such nature
that his or her continued presence at the University potentially threatens the
property, health, safety, or well being of the University community, but civil
authorities have not brought charges or imposed penalties;
4. The subject of an agency arrest, including being charged with a
misdemeanor offense;
5. Believed by the Dean or designee to have committed any act of violence that,
by its very nature, indicates the individual might present a threat to the
security and safety of the University community;
6. Believed by the Dean or designee to have committed any acts of violence or
harassment, perpetrated by a student upon one or more other members of the
University community. Physical abuse (including threats of) stalking, sexual
assault, dangerous conduct, and hazing are all considered to be acts of
violence;
7. Found to have committed acts which by their very nature are detrimental to
the educational mission of the University;
BOOM.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:16 am to CptBengal
quote:
i'm all about team sweep but you just can't lift the suspension. it sets a bad precedent. it just doesn't look good.
Actually he could, I think he called it indefinite for this reason....so he can lift it when he wants......
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:16 am to LSU-MNCBABY
quote:
For all of you bickering back and forth about is he or is he not a felon
quote:
JJ is already guilty of several of the items listed in this code of conduct for students
So he is considered a felon by LSU's supreme court?
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:18 am to LSU-MNCBABY
1. Convicted of a felony in a state or federal court: NOPE
2. Formally charged by civil authorities with the commission of a crime of such nature that the student's continued presence at the University potentially threatens the property, health, safety, or well being of members of the University community: NOPE
3. Believed by the Dean or designee to have committed a crime of such nature that his or her continued presence at the University potentially threatens the property, health, safety, or well being of the University community, but civil authorities have not brought charges or imposed penalties: NOPE
4. The subject of an agency arrest, including being charged with a misdemeanor offense: Okay, but many students have misdemeanor arrests
5. Believed by the Dean or designee to have committed any act of violence that, by its very nature, indicates the individual might present a threat to the security and safety of the university community: NOPE
6. Believed by the Dean or designee to have committed any acts of violence or harassment, perpetrated by a student upon one or more other members of the University community. Physical abuse (including threats of) stalking, sexual
assault, dangerous conduct, and hazing are all considered to be acts of violence: Not seeing it
7. Found to have committed acts which by their very nature are detrimental to the educational mission of the University NOPE
2. Formally charged by civil authorities with the commission of a crime of such nature that the student's continued presence at the University potentially threatens the property, health, safety, or well being of members of the University community: NOPE
3. Believed by the Dean or designee to have committed a crime of such nature that his or her continued presence at the University potentially threatens the property, health, safety, or well being of the University community, but civil authorities have not brought charges or imposed penalties: NOPE
4. The subject of an agency arrest, including being charged with a misdemeanor offense: Okay, but many students have misdemeanor arrests
5. Believed by the Dean or designee to have committed any act of violence that, by its very nature, indicates the individual might present a threat to the security and safety of the university community: NOPE
6. Believed by the Dean or designee to have committed any acts of violence or harassment, perpetrated by a student upon one or more other members of the University community. Physical abuse (including threats of) stalking, sexual
assault, dangerous conduct, and hazing are all considered to be acts of violence: Not seeing it
7. Found to have committed acts which by their very nature are detrimental to the educational mission of the University NOPE
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:19 am to Jester
quote:
Your point is stupid. You use the fact that he was charged as proof that the case won't be dropped? Delusional.
are you a fricking moron?
I said that charges dont get dropped on people that are arrested if the evidnece is solid and conclusive.
Gees... tell me you arent this fricking stupid and that you really can read and comprehend.
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