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Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:02 pm to
Posted by baseball mom
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:02 pm to
I don't think PM is on a short leash, I believe he will be around for a couple more years IF he turns the program around. Yes I would like to see a press conference with him discussing the changes he mentioned earlier.
Grewe and Javi are NOT getting the job done.
PM cost us several games, by his refusing to pull a struggling pitcher, until the other team as scored 5 or more runs. We had a bullpen full of pitchers, and more than once he could have brought them in one by one to stop the bleeding.
Yes we had the talent, no PM didn't utilize it.
It starts at the top, PM must take the blame for this season,lets see what he can put together next year. Core of infield good, if incoming 1st baseman is as good as they say. HELP in the outfield is needed. Pitchers lots of talent.
Hitting, get someone that knows how to teach it.
Pitchers, get someone that knows how to develop them.(ex. Alsup didn't develop until senior season,Bradshaw never developed at all, and Ott got worse.
Mikie thanks for a great season, you will be missed at the Box, but we'll watch you in the big league. Been a baseball fan all my life and Mikie is the best I have ever seen, attitude,passion and pure talent. Great young man, thanks for the memories at the Box.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:02 pm to
its amazing how people are ok with lowering the LSU baseball standard for the perfect tan paul. its like that smile while bama pushed our shite in on sunday with our season on the line just wins everyone over.

fwiw smoke goes cws - 0-2, regional failure vs rice at home, misses regional fired.

paul has now went nc,horrible season 3 seed fail of a regional at ucla,now missed the sec and ncaa tourny.

smoke got 2 bad years after making the cws twice, granted he didn't win a title so paul should get a 3rd.

now smoke clearly crashed the program so in 07 paul comes in does nothing but is cleaning up the pieces, 08 miracle run to cws, 09 nc we are clearly back. now back to back down years. Its a rough patch for sure but how long is it a rough patch before it becomes paul is tearing us back down for whatever reason.

how many down years is paul awarded for his nc and how many for building us back up?

IMO 3 years looking at everything since he did win the nc and brought us back. So that means this next year is the year for him. This year he makes changes to the staff if we bounce back and get to the supers like LSU should then all is good and paul showed it was a rough patch for whatever reason.

this time next year we are sweating a regional birth out then its time to move on.
Posted by MandevilleLSUTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
6883 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

Ok so like I said earlier. A mc clearly buys you a lifetime pass according to the rant


Noboby is saying that.

But he is two years removed from the CWS title. The year after the title, and replacing key players, he made the tourney again.

I would hold off on the meltdown until next year. Another year such as this, it will begin to get interesting.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:06 pm to
if trent gave us a nc in basketball id be ok with finish last in the sec 2 or 3 straight years

its just amazing how low some peoples standard for the program is. (im talking baseball)

its kinda like now that the evil fat smoke is gone they are ok with just being average and then every now and then making a run.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71319 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:07 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 1:03 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61737 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

When pm is doing the same thing as smoke it's a rough patch. Yet when smoke does it IRS driving the program into the ground



You seem unable to assess the overall talent level and therefore can only judge by looking at the W/L record.

That's why your opinion is so off base.

If Mainieri can solve the hitting problem next year by bringing in some JC talent and developing a couple of young guys this team will instantly be at the top of the SEC again.

Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:07 pm to
I agree with this. You get three bad years for each NC year. In baseball you can coach forever if you keep us in the Supers and in Omaha. In football keep us in the BCS games.

This bad season was just that...bad. However, PM needs to get fired up.
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
15277 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

I would hold off on the meltdown until next year. Another year such as this, it will begin to get interesting.


Agreed. We miss post season next year and it's on.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:08 pm to
last year was a horrible year by LSU standards.

LSU doesn't rebuild in baseball it should be reloading.

2 straight years we have had unacceptable slides in the sec.

I understand we can't win a nc every year but we should be hosting in almost all years considering what we have and if not hosting at least being a 2 seed in a weak regional.

the last 2 years havent lived up to that.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
31021 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

If Mainieri can solve the hitting problem next year by bringing in some JC talent and developing a couple of young guys this team will instantly be at the top of the SEC again.


I agree.
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:08 pm to
Because no body liked Brady. He was an egotistic arse.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175427 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:08 pm to
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Why was Brady fired two years after making the final four. When expectations are lower for basketball.

Someone finally got tired of his down years after successful ones.

Outside of 2003-2006 there was no consistency.

ETA: And there was really no consistency in 2003 or 2004.

2000, 2005, and 2006 made Brady and we saw what potential we had. Then it came crashing down as quickly as we ran to the final four.
This post was edited on 5/30/11 at 1:10 pm
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71319 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:10 pm to
and if this trend continues at the ralpid pace it's on we'll turn into the astros of college baseball
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61737 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:10 pm to

quote:

how many down years should a baseball nc buy a coach at LSU?



In itself...zero. The likelihood of future success should be the only determinant of whether a coach should be kept on. We are pretty damn close to being very good right now.

Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61856 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

and if this trend continues at the ralpid pace it's on we'll turn into the astros of college baseball

lolno
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:10 pm to
brady was consistent we would do good then be the worst team in the league for a year or so then good again
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:12 pm to
Guess he gets a pass because he is articulate.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

This bad season was just that...bad. However, PM needs to get fired up.
the last 2 have been horrible for LSU standards.

Paul and the team both look like they have been sleep walking since our nc.

this year should be the wake up call and clean house on staff and unproductive players. next year if the changes dont work its pauls head.

I hope paul cleans house and makes the right moves. Id like to bounce back and have this just be a rough patch but we shall see if paul sticks to his words.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71319 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:13 pm to
Why not OMT?

World Series in 05 and regressed year after year.


We are on a rapid decline right now
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 1:13 pm to
We're not on a rapidly declining streak. This years team improved from last year in many aspects, but so did everyone else. We had two pitchers who would have helped us out that did not play a single game due to injury. Add in the fact we lost a lot of 1 run games, and you can see how close we were.

Next year should be different, and better. We can only see though.
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