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Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
3331 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:17 pm to
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Troy State? 142 yds in ONE qtr? Greatest comeback in all of LSU history? And that was after they dicked around with JJ for 3 series (1/6 and 5 yds)

How can anyone take you seriously?


i stand corrected. JL performance at home against the mighty power that is troy state was high water mark. * please note that in JL's biggest fan's choice for JL's greatest performance evah, JL still manage to spot the opposition his traditional 7 point gift.

JJ's high water mark i dunno maybe it was
@Washington W 31-23 11 19 172 57.9 45 3 0
or
@MSU W 30-26 15 28 233 53.6 58 2 0
or maybe
Auburn W 31-10 21 31 242 67.7 31 2 0
or perhaps
@Georgia Tech W 38-3 16 25 142 64.0 25 1 0 124.91 10 25 2.5 11 0

JL has NEVER had a performance as good as any of those. yet, you want to talk about troy state...

how can anyone take you seriously?
This post was edited on 9/6/10 at 11:21 pm
Posted by AcetylCoA
Pasadena, California
Member since Nov 2009
2691 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

i stand corrected. JL performance at home against the mighty power that is troy state was high water mark.

JJ's high water mark i dunno maybe it was
@Washington W 31-23 11 19 172 57.9 45 3 0
or
@MSU W 30-26 15 28 233 53.6 58 2 0
or maybe
Auburn W 31-10 21 31 242 67.7 31 2 0
or perhaps
@Georgia Tech W 38-3 16 25 142 64.0 25 1 0 124.91 10 25 2.5 11 0

JL has NEVER had a performance as good as any of those. yet, you want to talk about troy state...

how can anyone take you seriously?


Hammer Time.
End this retarded thread.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71400 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:21 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/9/23 at 11:10 am
Posted by AlanRainman
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
2662 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:22 pm to
[quote]Isn't Lee the practice king?[quote]

No that is Richard Murphy.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26267 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:22 pm to
quote:

can someone explain the logic behind not wanting to see what he can do?

Jefferson did not play well. TJ Yates proved you can overcome the interception bug. Why not see what he can do.

Someone who does not want to give him a shot please come forward and state why?


I wouldn't say he didn't play well. He didn't have a super game with big numbers. He didn't do anything that killed us (especially when compared to some of the other stuff some of our players did). He threw a 51-yard bomb for a TD that was a strike and had another bullet TD to Shepard that was a really good pass. He had some decent runs and he was very accurate on his passes.

Now, he still drops back waaaay too far when he's in trouble on some plays. He didn't physically take any sacks (which was a positive), but he got a stupid intentional grounding call on one when he should have just ran to the side and thrown it out of bounds. He had an INT. at the end of the half which he tried to throw away, but didn't quite succeed. Again, that's stupid because he only needed to get outside the pocket and throw it away five yards in front of him. But every QB usually has a few stupid mistakes a game. And those were just a couple of plays.

He took too much time to throw on some passes as well. He didn't appear to have any real trouble getting plays off, completed 71% of his passes and had positive yards rushing.

Also, starting the third quarter JJ hit the open TE as he did a few times in the game and we picked up 24 yards. We were inside their 15 and about to score something one way or the other and then FUUUUUMBLE. If LSU scores there, the game is likely out of commission. RB's fault.

Again, starting the 4th quarter, they had a nice drive where JJ made nice plays running & passing and led them down inside NC's 20. Ridley makes a great run for a TD on 3rd down to finish it off and we get called for holding. Then Jordan got that intentional grounding call on 3rd and 12 at about the 26. So that was another likely score/nail in the coffin that didn't happen because of penalties. Now, we obviously would have had another TD without the holding call, so that's not JJ's fault. But we might have possibly scored a FG if JJ had thrown it away. However, we missed from just about at that distance earlier in the game. So that wasn't guaranteed either.

Obviously, the bigger mistakes that made this a close game were not JJ's. He did most things well. And it's a first game, so I don't know what you're expecting.

And no, JJ did not put up TJ Yates #s. That was our other bigger problem. Our secondary had a gigantic breakdown in the 2nd half.

And that's what the big issue is. Our coaches have not made many good 2nd half adjustments recently. Teams adjust to us and we either lose our lead or just hang on to win it seems (quite a bit). JJ did not play as well in the 2nd half (and the rest of our team had major issues), but like I said, when you have drive killers, it's hard to impress.

As for Lee, I'm not against giving him a shot at some point (if JJ actually struggles). That's the point of the backup. I was hoping we'd score another TD and put JL in to get him some work and see if he's improved.

You can say what you want, but La. Tech was a chance for him to show some improvement and pull closer to playing in games if our offense is struggling. He had just played the week before against Bama for almost a full half, so it wasn't like he was coming in without playing in a long time. But there was nothing that he did that I could say was even close to good in that game. You have to cash in every chance you get when you have an opportunity to show people that you've improved (whether it's because of an injury or whatever). But he didn't do that. Maybe next time he will.

It's not even about interceptions. He didn't even have one against Tech. He just couldn't complete almost anything. That was an even bigger problem. That was the lowest total an LSU QB had for total yards in a game last year. JJ only did something like that once and that was against Florida (obviously a huge difference in opponents).

It was the first game, JJ was accurate, nailed some TDs and if our other guys would have held on to the ball/not been called for penalties, it wouldn't have been close. Then we would have seen JL. JJ did not play bad and the game never got far enough in doubt to warrant pulling the starter for a QB that has recently had big struggles. That's the logic.

Hopefully the coaches can start making adjustments and we'll get some separation from teams and see Lee. If he does something really good when he gets in, then he'll get closer to seeing more time. Until then, no...
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26267 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:39 pm to
quote:

Troy State? 142 yds in ONE qtr? Greatest comeback in all of LSU history? And that was after they dicked around with JJ for 3 series (1/6 and 5 yds)

How can anyone take you seriously?



Dude, we had to have the greatest comeback in LSU HISTORY against TROY. Say that to yourself. Does that sound right? It was great to win, but it's pathetic that we were down 31-3 with the 3rd quarter closing out.

That was after they "dicked around with JJ" you say? I do remember him not doing anything in the first few series of that game where he had more than one pass for the first time ever. But who did they need to score the FIRST TD at the end of the 3rd quarter against Troy on 4th and goal from the 3? I'll tell you - it was JJ. Thank God they "dicked around" with him because it was over if we didn't get in right there.

JL did have a good 4th quarter against Troy and he did help us win. I was happy for that. But he had 1 TD and 1 Pick 6 against Troy. JJ got in the end zone and provided the real spark though to come back. So get out of here with that garbage. Our defense and offense were terrible against Troy for 3 quarters.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:40 pm to
quote:

Let's wait and see how JJ does first.


we did...nothings changed...put the other guy in...
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26267 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:51 pm to
quote:

we did...nothings changed...put the other guy in...


Actually, something did change from the previous game. We won.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295760 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:55 pm to
JJ played OK. I think Lee needs a series or two per game if nothing more than to give JJ a chance to watch from the sidelines with coaching. As long as the team is winning, there is no reason to change starting and feature QB's though.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:57 pm to
quote:

Actually, something did change from the previous game. We won.


did you thank the guy that made it happen?


he's #7...goes by the name peterson....
Posted by GR CHAMP
Member since Dec 2006
726 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 11:59 pm to
(did you thank the guy that made it happen? )


(he's #7...goes by the name peterson....)

And that guy that was holding on that last play! Thank you
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175755 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 12:01 am to
quote:

Any fan that isnt a moron realizes the sixes weren't his fault.

The ones against Auburn, the one the first play against Georgia, and Tulane were Lee's fault. And that's just off the top of my head.

I think the one against Troy was too so that makes it 4 out of 7 fwiw.
This post was edited on 9/7/10 at 12:16 am
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10454 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 12:21 am to
quote:

Why does the rant not want to give Lee a shot?

The question is not why does the rant not want to give Lee a shot, it is not why do the Coaches not want to give Lee a shot?
Do a role reversal.
If you knew what they knew, along with the common knowledge of his recent game performances, could you have started Lee vs UNC, if you really cared about LSU's season, not to mention your job?
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26267 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 12:28 am to
quote:

Actually, something did change from the previous game. We won.



did you thank the guy that made it happen?


he's #7...goes by the name peterson....


Don't change the subject. You said that nothing had changed.

He helped make it happen and was the biggest contributor in making it happen. Sorry, but I didn't thank him. I don't have his number.

JJ also helped us win. As did RR, RS, etc. They all had TDs.
Posted by fResLife
Dirty Dell
Member since Apr 2010
224 posts
Posted on 9/7/10 at 12:35 am to
do yall want heisman number out of JJ?
i mean jesus what does he have to do to be off the hot seat?
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