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re: To be honest, the best person Mathieu could've talked to wasn't Lucas...
Posted on 10/26/12 at 2:21 pm to GFunk
Posted on 10/26/12 at 2:21 pm to GFunk
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I think I have my doubts about his level of addiction if its to pot. Now decision-making? Impulse control? Of course he's got those issues. I just don't think he's feening for pot like some junkie.
it may not be physically addictive but anything that changes your mood and helps you scape reality can be psychologically addictive, if that helps explain it
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Posted on 10/26/12 at 2:23 pm to GFunk
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The problem's up top. Between the ears. In his head.
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner. TM lacks self control. He's not an addict or any of that BS people have been spouting on here. He just fricking sucks at decision making.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 2:24 pm to GFunk
Keys are: 1) being smart enough to listen 2) being willing to do what your are told
Without both it is useless
Without both it is useless
Posted on 10/26/12 at 2:25 pm to GFunk
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When you make any bad decision, I think critical thinking, reasoning, maturity & logic are bigger problems.
And then you said this part earlier, which is 100% true:
quote:Where does critical thinking, reasoning, maturity & logic occur? What part of the body? That's right, the brain (between the ears).
The problem's up top. Between the ears. In his head.
quote:Nobody can label him as addicted, other than himself. But like I said, he better hope he's an addict because at least then he would have an excuse for completely self destructing.
It wasn't addiction
If he's not an addict/alkie and just did that just because, then he is mentally challenged.
And again, I don't think he's dumb or mentally challenged or anything like that. I think he's got a problem and unfortunately it's not just known with his friends and family, but involves a whole nation of sports fans observing the downfall.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 2:30 pm to LSUTil_iDie
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Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner. TM lacks self control. He's not an addict or any of that BS people have been spouting on here. He just fricking sucks at decision making.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 2:31 pm to LSUTil_iDie
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Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner. TM lacks self control. He's not an addict or any of that BS people have been spouting on here. He just fricking sucks at decision making.
how do you know hes not an addict?
Posted on 10/26/12 at 2:32 pm to redfieldk717
I think he is addicted to "the drug game" but not the drugs themselves
What is the old saying? You don't have a drug problem, you have a YOU problem
What is the old saying? You don't have a drug problem, you have a YOU problem
Posted on 10/26/12 at 2:33 pm to supatigah
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I think he is addicted to "the drug game" but not the drugs themselves
What is the old saying? You don't have a drug problem, you have a YOU problem
yes, good point....the life style alone can be addicting
Posted on 10/26/12 at 2:38 pm to supatigah
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I think he is addicted to "the drug game" but not the drugs themselves
Addictions and mental and emotional issues come in many forms. Think about the people who have the need to cut themselves or anoexics who don't eat etc...
TM is not just some kid making poor decision due to immaturiey etc... He's making decisions to give in to desires that are contrary to his best interests in very serious ways.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 2:40 pm to LSUTil_iDie
The issue is not a physical addiction or a psychological addiction. It's the thousands of times that you don't get caught. It's the thousands of times that there were no negative consequences. Mathieu (if he was smoking again) knew that he wasn't in any legal trouble. He wasn't required to submit to any random drug tests. That the likelihood of a cop kicking down his door was insanely slim. There was no reason not to smoke other than some abstract "it could affect my future career...maybe" thought.
An analogy:
Smoking weed for most people is on the level of speeding. You routinely drive 10 mph over the speed limit on the interstate. You know most cops won't bother to even flip on their lights. You understand that it increases your chances of being in an accident or getting a ticket, but you have exceeded the speed limit thousands of times with no incident.
You get in a bad car accident. You know that speeding was at least a contributing factor. For the next 3 or 4 months you drive the speed limit, you pay attention to the road, and you take longer to stop, and you even turn down the radio. Months pass with no incident, and all of sudden you are speeding down the highway again. Why? Because there are thousands of times you have done this with no incident weighing against the one time something bad happened.
Most people who like to smoke weed do so because they feel they can get away with it 999/1000. If they need to stop for a drug test or probation, they stop. Other than that, most people, like me, stop because they don't enjoy it anymore and they get a little older.
An analogy:
Smoking weed for most people is on the level of speeding. You routinely drive 10 mph over the speed limit on the interstate. You know most cops won't bother to even flip on their lights. You understand that it increases your chances of being in an accident or getting a ticket, but you have exceeded the speed limit thousands of times with no incident.
You get in a bad car accident. You know that speeding was at least a contributing factor. For the next 3 or 4 months you drive the speed limit, you pay attention to the road, and you take longer to stop, and you even turn down the radio. Months pass with no incident, and all of sudden you are speeding down the highway again. Why? Because there are thousands of times you have done this with no incident weighing against the one time something bad happened.
Most people who like to smoke weed do so because they feel they can get away with it 999/1000. If they need to stop for a drug test or probation, they stop. Other than that, most people, like me, stop because they don't enjoy it anymore and they get a little older.
This post was edited on 10/26/12 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 10/26/12 at 2:43 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
good point and analogy...i honestly think its a combination of everything people are talking about in this thread
Posted on 10/26/12 at 2:47 pm to Gris Gris
Sure
He is a thrill seeker with a self destructive nature
It would not surprise me one bit if he took a drug test yesterday and passed it. He knows he will get tested but he loves the thrill of being in the life.
Obviously the dude has some deep seated emotional development issues causing him some pain and drugs or the drug game is just a way to "self medicate" and feel good. The real question he has to ask himself is why?
Football is really not important for him right now
The other three are just potheads treading water in Baton Rouge because they obviously don't have a degree yet or are getting their degree and don't have a plan for what to do with themselves
He is a thrill seeker with a self destructive nature
It would not surprise me one bit if he took a drug test yesterday and passed it. He knows he will get tested but he loves the thrill of being in the life.
Obviously the dude has some deep seated emotional development issues causing him some pain and drugs or the drug game is just a way to "self medicate" and feel good. The real question he has to ask himself is why?
Football is really not important for him right now
The other three are just potheads treading water in Baton Rouge because they obviously don't have a degree yet or are getting their degree and don't have a plan for what to do with themselves
Posted on 10/26/12 at 2:49 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
Great post
Posted on 10/26/12 at 2:54 pm to OldManRiver
Sounds like there's a demand for a National Weed League in football.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 3:12 pm to GFunk
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I don't think Mathieu has a problem with drugs. I think Mathieu has decision-making problems. He doesn't have the ability to make good decisions regarding who to surround himself with.
thats part of a drug problem bro. its not just the user and the substance. and i stopped reading there.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 3:16 pm to LSUTil_iDie
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Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner. TM lacks self control. He's not an addict or any of that BS people have been spouting on here. He just fricking sucks at decision making.
thats part of substance abuse. poor impulse control. poor insight into behavior. poor judgement in decision making. he may not be an "addict," but the guy clearly needs help.
Posted on 10/26/12 at 6:12 pm to makinskrilla
I'm 62, been sober 28yrs on Augustn 12 1982.
Started by smoking weed, progressed to coke, pills ,acid, I played football, ran track went to SLU on Track scholarship, was recruited by LSU as a Punter.
I never drank or did drugs till I was out of high school. It's not for me to say TM is addicted to weed, but I can tell you, If you don't change your playmates,playgrounds, or playthings bad things are gonna happen
I never got caught,i was a miserable SOB for a long time till I got sick and tired of being sick and tired, That's the bottom line for anyone addicted to anything, the turning point for me was
holding a loaded shotgun to my mouth.
They are reaping what they sow, just glad they not on the team bieing a cancer to the rest
Sorry for the long rant
Started by smoking weed, progressed to coke, pills ,acid, I played football, ran track went to SLU on Track scholarship, was recruited by LSU as a Punter.
I never drank or did drugs till I was out of high school. It's not for me to say TM is addicted to weed, but I can tell you, If you don't change your playmates,playgrounds, or playthings bad things are gonna happen
I never got caught,i was a miserable SOB for a long time till I got sick and tired of being sick and tired, That's the bottom line for anyone addicted to anything, the turning point for me was
holding a loaded shotgun to my mouth.
They are reaping what they sow, just glad they not on the team bieing a cancer to the rest
Sorry for the long rant
Posted on 10/26/12 at 6:31 pm to ole man
Posted on 10/26/12 at 6:35 pm to ole man
Congrats on saving your own life!
Posted on 10/26/12 at 6:57 pm to 1STCoastTiger
nobody else was gonna do it for me
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