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re: TM7 holding call no different than any other...lay off!!!
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:21 pm to pellietigersaint
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:21 pm to pellietigersaint
quote:Im not concerned about the injury, it was a freak accident from hitting head on ground.
What would you have said if there were no injury timout?
bad play - yes
stupid play - yes
dirty play - yes
ejection - absolutely not
suspension - absolutely not
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:32 pm to DadFanAlum
quote:I do not know if you have even watched a replay. I did not see the game, but have been amazed by the vitriol begin spewed by some on here about the play.
he pulls a bush-league flagrant personal foul it reflects poorly on us
I found a link saw the play several times and in slow motion. He did not clothesline Dre, he hit his shoulder pad from behind only. At that speed it knocked Dre off balance, TM7 held on a bit, which caused Dre to turn slightly, TM7 released immediately and held his hands high while pulling away....no deliberate attempt to hurt anyone, no flagrant foul no personal foul, no ejection even should have been considered.
I just do not understand what those who are so angry about can see in the replay to justify such a reaction????
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:37 pm to Tigermate78
quote:
I found a link saw the play several times and in slow motion. He did not clothesline Dre, he hit his shoulder pad from behind only. At that speed it knocked Dre off balance, TM7 held on a bit, which caused Dre to turn slightly, TM7 released immediately and held his hands high while pulling away....no deliberate attempt to hurt anyone, no flagrant foul no personal foul, no ejection even should have been considered.
After initially watching it, I tempered my view of what happened but your account is absolute horse shite. It may be what he tried to do, but it didnt work.
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:44 pm to XbengalTiger
quote:
A 260 pound LB took two full steps after Lee threw it and went high on the QB. Lee was blasted 7 yards backwards and looked like a crash test dummy. Also, Bama had TWO blocks in the back on the second Lee interception. Should those players be ejected? Lastly, Kirkpatrick went high on Jefferson and launched his body as Jefferson was stepping out of bounds. Was that a thuggish hit?
I suspect most of the people complaining about TM7's hand shiver to the shoulder of Kirkpatrick never played a down of football and are clueless about whats its like being in the heat of battle.
all of this
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:49 pm to DadFanAlum
quote:no
a forearm to the neck
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:57 pm to Mindenfan
"I suspect most of the people complaining about TM7's hand shiver to the shoulder of Kirkpatrick never played a down of football and are clueless about whats its like being in the heat of battle."
Agreed 100%, although I'd add that they've also never taken a punch. I broke up fights with punks in Tigerland that threw harder strikes than that "haymaker." And I love all of the "thug" accusations. Our "old-fashioned conservatism" is showing again for some of the folks. He smokes fake dope! Oh no! Hide your kids!
Agreed 100%, although I'd add that they've also never taken a punch. I broke up fights with punks in Tigerland that threw harder strikes than that "haymaker." And I love all of the "thug" accusations. Our "old-fashioned conservatism" is showing again for some of the folks. He smokes fake dope! Oh no! Hide your kids!
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:58 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
quote:you're right, after watching the replays closer I see that he did not not hit the throat. However, this is still a stupid play. When you are behind a player you don't make contact. Period.
it isn't across his throat
I never said he should be ejected, I just said it was a stupid play. And I stand by that.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:59 pm to DadFanAlum
quote:
TM7 is still 180lbs... how bad can he hurt somebody with a forearm to the top of the shoulder pads??
this. you're a college defensive back. get up.
quote:
Spare me the "football is rough" crap. I know it is. TM crossed the line, plain and simple.
any of you ever consider that he was 'setting the tone?' done it plenty of times. take the penalty.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:02 pm to Tiger HouTX
See? Even the ruggers get it. And that hold is legal in rugby. (if the ref doesn't see)
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:09 pm to NewtonDevice
it's funny if it was the other way around these "fans" would be screaming for the Tider to get ejected and Saban is a "dirty" coach
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:12 pm to pellietigersaint
quote:
A 260 pound LB took two full steps after Lee threw it and went high on the QB. Lee was blasted 7 yards backwards and looked like a crash test dummy. Also, Bama had TWO blocks in the back on the second Lee interception. Should those players be ejected? Lastly, Kirkpatrick went high on Jefferson and launched his body as Jefferson was stepping out of bounds
i'm not a big guy on helment to helment calls, but Russ Shep got a big one w/no call. He was coming out the backfield and JJ over-threw him and got lit up
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:27 pm to The Ramp
quote:
it's funny if it was the other way around these "fans" would be screaming for the Tider to get ejected and Saban is a "dirty" coach
I would never be that big a pussy. Ejected? no way. I would simply want the flag to be thrown. Which it was
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:44 pm to pellietigersaint
quote:
And that hold is legal in rugby. (if the ref doesn't see)
everything the ref doesn't see is legal.
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:00 pm to pellietigersaint
If I were TM7:
quote:
deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:02 pm to 19
quote:
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide
beautiful beautiful
Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:11 pm to pellietigersaint
I agree... he is a fantastic player that gives all he has.. it so easy to sit back on the couch drinking beer, making judgments looking at your tv set... I know cuz I do it from time to time, all he was trying to do was hook the guys shoulder pad and turn him,,,,, and do you know why???? so he wouldnt get a clean shot on his team mate!! So to you "fans" calling him a thug, and wanting him kicked off the team 
!!!
CHill out
!!! CHill out
Posted on 11/7/11 at 3:41 pm to pellietigersaint
Doug Moreau said this AM that he thought Kirkpatrick had face masked Matthieu earlier in the game, and this might have been payback.
Anybody else see this or have a clip?
Anybody else see this or have a clip?
Posted on 11/7/11 at 7:17 pm to NewtonDevice
Thanks for the link, Newtondevice.
This isn't about a hit on Lee, or Shep, or other missed calls, or how much Kirkpratrick milked it. No one is being unfair to TM, we're all fans of his.
But you can't look at that video and not see the swing and cold cock of Kilpratrick's neck. That's chicken shite, period. Unless you insist on watching it through your purple and gold glasses.
This isn't about a hit on Lee, or Shep, or other missed calls, or how much Kirkpratrick milked it. No one is being unfair to TM, we're all fans of his.
But you can't look at that video and not see the swing and cold cock of Kilpratrick's neck. That's chicken shite, period. Unless you insist on watching it through your purple and gold glasses.
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