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re: TM7 - We got your back!

Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:43 am to
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:43 am to
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Again you all have an agenda against the guy.


Just because YOU don't agree????? Sad.



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His play was outstanding last night.




Outstanding is a huge stretch.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:46 am to
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I did however see him get beat on some 3rd downs and not come up and make some tackles that I think he should have made. He did not have his best game and certainly not his worst. I don't see why some fans take constructive criticism so negatively.


He made his tackles. He had one play where he did not make the initial tackle, but he slowed the guy down and the teammates finished it off.

So he gave up 2 catches and he deserves criticism?
Both those catches the guy went out of bounds of crossing patterns. No one beat him deep. How about he locked his guy up for the most part all night. HE NEVER ONCE GOT BEAT DEEP. That's his job. He kept his guy INFRONT of him. You can't ask much more from a corner. He had a huge contribution along with everyone in the game in limited opportunities.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:47 am to






Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:49 am to
He prevented far more plays than he gave up.

He doesn't get any credit for his coverage on the nonthrows.

He did play very well with limited opportunities. He also was in great position as usual on one of the most crucial punts in the game that could have been a touchback.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:51 am to
I have watched this game from start to finish 4 times now. Please go back and do the same and tell me he wasn't huge in this game.

He literally only missed 1 tackle. 1 and he was coming from a slight angle. Not tackles plural.. and in that miss he still slowed the guy down enough for his teammates to finish. I don't know what more you want from your 3rd corner.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:51 am to
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So he gave up 2 catches and he deserves criticism?


Fans and coaches should ignore when he gets beat? I am just pointing out he talks a mean game but is also getting beat also.

If he is going to talk so much smack that opposing fans notice and comment on it by saying stuff like "man he is a great player but all that trash talking has gotten out of hand" and they say they are beginning to really dislike him b/c of it just proves he is ruining his image as a great football player. I would rather him lighten up and play ball. Face it if an opposing player acted like he did all LSU fans would hate on him no matter how grest he was.

ETA: Even LSU fans complain that the trash talking has gotten out of hand so what do you think the rest of the nation thinks?
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 11:57 am
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 11:55 am to
I am so glad you posted the first few picks. He should have come up quicker to the outside of the blocker...but hesitated IMO. You can see what you want but I think he played it wrong.

Also why aren't you posting the stills of him getting beat?
Posted by Interesting Thought
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:00 pm to
When he got beat on the crossing route, the Alabama receiver pushed off.
Whether you want to say that happens on every play and that great DBs are able to fight through it, it was a decently strong push off that any DB would have problems being right on the receiver.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:03 pm to
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When he got beat on the crossing route, the Alabama receiver pushed off.
Whether you want to say that happens on every play and that great DBs are able to fight through it, it was a decently strong push off that any DB would have problems being right on the receiver


Most receivers push off. Mo and Simon get pushed also. Against tennessee he told tweeted to there best receiver he wouldn't make a catch and what happens in the game h makes a catch on TM7 then drags him down the field like a rag doll. Just play ball and let the scoreboard do the talking.
Posted by LSUknight2010
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:08 pm to
Tyrann held that receiver to 2 catches... the receiver Da'rick Rogers was averaging 110 yards per game 6 receptions and 9 points per game and u complain because he lets him catch two balls for 20 yards..
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 12:09 pm
Posted by LSUknight2010
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:12 pm to
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tweeted to there best receiver he wouldn't make a catch and what happens in the game h makes a catch on TM7


He locked down there best receiver and limits him to two catches... he may not have limited him to zero catches but that's a win for Tyrann considering what the guy was averaging
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:13 pm to
You do realize he didn't guard him all night right?

ETA: Hanks burned him a few times so I guess you are saying TM7 guards to wr's each route
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 12:14 pm
Posted by LSUknight2010
Member since Jan 2011
239 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:15 pm to
Da'Rick is their slot receiver who's the nickel back on our team... .. He guarded him majority of game ..If your going to point out his trash talking not being backed up use a better example next time..
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:18 pm to
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If your going to point out his trash talking not being backed up use a better example next time..


I think you need to just stay out of shite you have no clue about. Don't give me number for a receiver he didn't guard every play dumbass.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:25 pm to
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You really believe this????? OK. I am bashing the guy for making a boneheaded play in the most important game this year.


Im with you 100 percent Duke. Their are always going to be people that justify bush league play. Just look at Arkansas message boards last week. This is an eerily similar split of fans who condone/condemn the hit.
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:38 pm to
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I don't see Reid talking smack like TM7 and he is making huge hits on TR and game saving plays on the goal line.


Just because you don't "see" it doesn't mean it's not happening.

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Do you think that is rare that a player does that?


Nope....do you think that is rare that a player has a penalty at a crucial time in the game?

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I love him but he needs to just shut up and play football.


He doesn't need to shut up. He needs to keep running his mouth...look what it did to Kirkpatrick when he was offsides. Isn't that the point? To boggle the minds of your competition? Well, it works. I don't want him to stop. The twitter stuff can stop but the in-game stuff is part of him and how he plays.

Damn...as a woman it is very hard for me to believe you boys are as sensitive as you are about this. He isn't dirty, didn't try to intentionally knock the other kid out, and was trying to make a play. Why make such a big deal out of it? GEEZ!
Posted by Nearl
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:47 pm to
Did the people that think TM7 is thuggish and needs to stop talking so much say the same stuff while Patrick Peterson was here? I have never seen anyone talk as much as Peterson. We all LOVED the Julio Jones - PP7 rivalry, but Jones was by all accounts a stand-up, hard-working player who never talked and PP7 was relentless with trash talk.

It's what many (not all, but many) of the great defensive players have done, especially defensive backs.

Hell, we don't even need to talk about just football. Muhammad Ali and Michael Jordan were possibly the two most notorious trash-talkers in the history of their sports. You don't think it had any positive affect on the way they performed mentally or athletically?

ETA: Grammar Fix.
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 12:51 pm
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:48 pm to
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To me he acts bigger than the team...hogs attention on the sideline etc. I think he is hurting his image nationally by acting the way he is.


Did you watch his post game interview? Never once did he say I or me. It was "The Team", we, etc. He gets the attention b/c he is so small and has forced turnovers. Make no mistake, this is a TEAM if I ever saw one. I was even impressed with JJ's post game interview when he complimented Lee and discussed the TEAM. In the beginning of the season, he did not sound this way. I'm so proud of how this team is a true team.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:52 pm to
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Also I don't see the connection between running his mouth and holding. Maybe he does jaw too much, but he didn't get flagged for that, or for a personal foul or anything, it was a HOLD people.


Because, you can believe what you want, but most unbiased people watching the game and seeing their little feud see it as a selfish attempt to settle the score with the guy he was jawing with.

People act like it was a bang, bang block where a player is being asked to exhibit a ridiculous amount of self control and spur of the moment decision making. He was trailing the gunner on a punt return. That is a common scenario. More times than not, a player covering a gunner is afforded the option of pulling the guy down where he is running full speed.

If it was a block in the back where the guy turned at the last second, I would be inclined to believe it was a hustle play by Mathieu. That was clearly not the case. A guy who routinely covers gunners knows that it is not acceptable to take a guy down from behind.
Posted by Cali 4 LSU
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:53 pm to
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The fact is that he did make some good plays - maybe the percentage was lower (in comparison to his prior stats or to other stars in the current game) but to discount it and highlight only the single foul seems a bit illogical and downright treacherous as a fan.


Yep! He is a mere human...mistakes are a possiblity.

He is human, right?
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