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re: Time to kill a myth that was once again created on the Rant
Posted on 12/30/18 at 8:29 pm to bencoleman
Posted on 12/30/18 at 8:29 pm to bencoleman
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can you name these uber talented players on the offensive side of the ball, in particular the offensive line.
It's really sad when people who claim to be LSU fans continually throw the players under the bus so the coaches that are being paid damn good money don't have to shoulder any responsibility for the offense struggling this past season.
By the way ben, how do you think these young men would feel after reading some of your posts about them not being talented football players?
It's really really sad.
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Posted on 12/30/18 at 8:31 pm to earl keese
Yeah I don't get it.
Trashing the coaches is a damn sin. Trashing the players, fair game.
Trashing the coaches is a damn sin. Trashing the players, fair game.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 8:34 pm to Goldrush25
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Trashing the coaches is a damn sin. Trashing the players, fair game.
Seems to be that way, unless the coach you are trashing wasn't hired by Orgeron (i.e the good coaches on staff).
Then it's not even trashing coaches by most. If you point out a legit concern, you are met with a huge resistance packed with name calling.
This post was edited on 12/30/18 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 12/30/18 at 8:40 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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I mean how the frick does this happen? Did he do any research on Canada? Sure doesn’t seem like it.
How do you not trust his system 4-5 games after you hired him?
During Ensminger's introductory press conference, the head football coach seemed to insinuate that he was forced to make a "big name" hire.
Just a horrible idea all around. Canada never had a shot in hell in hindsight. He had no trust the second he got on campus.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 8:40 pm to Goldrush25
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At some point you have to pay attention to the evidence and face some tough truths
What do you think I'm trying to get you to do?
Saying that the team lacked upperclassmen leadership and the young guys were playing before they were fully ready is not in any way shape or form trashing the players. You've got a few guys deliberately misunderstanding my words to discredit what I've said. fricking dishonest as hell.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 8:43 pm to bencoleman
I'm telling you they're still talented. Just because they're inexperienced doesn't mean they're not talented.
So like I said, we should expect a massive improvement in performance this season, because if you compare the talent we have on the line according to HS ratings, it's right there with most schools, including playoff teams.
So like I said, we should expect a massive improvement in performance this season, because if you compare the talent we have on the line according to HS ratings, it's right there with most schools, including playoff teams.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 8:47 pm to Goldrush25
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So you feel that they should be developed enough to claim a playoff spot this next season right
No you're putting words in my mouth. The guy said that O inherited a loaded roster which it's been shown that he didn't.
The guy said player development was lacking which has also shown to be untrue.
I said the lack of upperclassmen forced the coaches to start guys that haven't had the benefit of much player development because they were young.
Somehow you intentionally get that wrong and say I'm bashing the players. You have a great day. I'm tired of slapping you all around.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 8:48 pm to Goldrush25
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So like I said, we should expect a massive improvement in performance this season, because if you compare the talent we have on the line according to HS ratings, it's right there with most schools, including playoff teams
This.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 8:49 pm to Goldrush25
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Yeah I don't get it.
Neither do I. That's the game they want to play though. Nothing is ever o's fault. Very few things are ever e's fault.
It's all on the players and recently Aranda's name has been tossed out there.
You lead a defense that finished the season ranked somewhere around 30th in the country and you're fair game to critique. You lead an offense that finishes the season in the 80's and according to some folks on here, you've done a fantastic job and how dare anyone question what has happened during the season.
It's really fricking confusing.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 8:50 pm to bencoleman
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The guy said that O inherited a loaded roster which it's been shown that he didn't.
I consider "loaded" to be a reference to the level of talent on the roster. When you look at that talent, it's better than most teams. That's loaded to me.
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The guy said player development was lacking which has also shown to be untrue.
There isn't a definitive way to quantify this so there's no true or false here. But if you have talented guys that can't block lesser talented guys, you have to ask if they've being developed properly.
I don't care if we do have sophomores on the line, there's no situation where they should be getting rag-dolled by SELA.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 8:51 pm to bencoleman
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The guy said that O inherited a loaded roster which it's been shown that he didn't.
Orgeron said as much. So, did he lie to get the job, or is he just clueless about the program he had previously been around?
Posted on 12/30/18 at 8:55 pm to Goldrush25
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consider "loaded" to be a reference to the level of talent on the roster. When you look at that talent, it's better than most teams. That's loaded to me
He didn't inherit anything at all on the offensive line he doesn't have any upperclassmen. One senior and one junior. A he has is younger guys along the offensive line.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 8:58 pm to bencoleman
Stop ducking my question, Ben.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 9:01 pm to bencoleman
He inherited 4 NFL offensive lineman lol. And that’s not counting the guys currently on the team he didn’t recruit who will play in the NFL.
This post was edited on 12/30/18 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 12/30/18 at 9:13 pm to I20goon
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Worth noticing, at the end of the season, Ensminger admitted that several positions had still not learned audibles.
End of which season? Because Canada isnt here and players still haven't learned the audibles which makes the only remaining common denominator Edward Orgeron and Steve Ensminger.
This coaching regime has already become a sh/t show with their greatest accomplishment being that they have people convincing the fanbase that 9 regular season wins is good.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 10:02 pm to Madking
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He inherited 4 NFL offensive lineman lol. And that’s not counting the guys currently on the team he didn’t recruit who will play in the NFL.
We're currently discussing the offensive line. Can you name these 4 upper classmen that he inherited?
Posted on 12/30/18 at 10:09 pm to LongTime Tiger
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I’d bet any amount of money aranda got Canada canned.
Partly right. Almost no one got along with Canada. He was brash and arrogant according to some of the staff. That didn't sit well with some who had been there for longer. Plus some players had difficulty learning the system. I saw part of the the playbook and it was a lot of commands, just to set the motion and formation. That was the reason that several very talented athletes didn't get much playing time.
But the biggest reason was the Ed never trusted and believed in his system and that was the ultimate reason MC was fired.
I've always thought that Alleva forced O to hire Canada. If not why else would Canada do the end around and run to Alleva to usurp O's authority. Hearing that Aranda couldn't stand him either shouldn't come as a surprise.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 10:12 pm to bencoleman
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bencoleman
Tell orgeron he’s in over his head and he can only throw so many people under the bus before it’s his arse that’s canned. There’s a reason he’s paid so low compared to decent coaches - upper echelon coaches. Also, let him know that people with a normal functioning brain can see through his bullshite and yours and that ree assclown as well. Y’all’s propaganda machine is like that of the democrats.......non stop. You and ree are nothing but lying, shite stirring moochers collecting a check and you’re worried your gravy train will run out, hence all of the propaganda you two losers spread.
Posted on 12/30/18 at 10:23 pm to 31TIGERS
Tell us how you really feel
Posted on 12/30/18 at 10:29 pm to Tiger Ree
You do realize the picture of a tiger you choose to post every thread looks lame as shite right? It looks like the tiger is yawning with its damn eyes closed, you really couldn't find one of a tiger roaring? Like only you could make a tiger look lame, congrats.
Not to mention the one of Orgeron is an odd choice too.
Not to mention the one of Orgeron is an odd choice too.
This post was edited on 12/30/18 at 10:31 pm
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