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re: Tigers have reached the 40-win mark for the 7th time in coach Paul Mainieri's 9

Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:02 am to
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57586 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:02 am to
...and haven't done dick in the post-season since 2009.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:03 am to
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You sound dumber with every post you make
tell me what I said that is untrue genius.

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If it was up to you, we'd have a new baseball coach every 2 years
that's not at all what I said. What I said is lsu is not getting a commensurate return on their investment and it's not really debatable.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32584 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:07 am to
Holy stupidity son.. you need to logoff, you're just full of stupid..
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68524 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:08 am to
So who should replace pm as coach then?
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
20611 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:10 am to
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that's not at all what I said. What I said is lsu is not getting a commensurate return on their investment and it's not really debatable.


Then please tell me what goals/benchmarks LSU should be achieving that they are not at the present time?
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39993 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:12 am to
You really don't get it, do you? Not everything is so rigid and cut and dry. Dumping money into a program doesn't automatically have to equate to winning the CWS every few years. Sometimes you run into a hot team and lose. Sometimes you make a decision or two that cost you a game. Sometimes your team goes cold late. I think once you start to understand that not everything is black and white and not everything can be tabulated with money signs, you'll be a lot less miserable.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:14 am to
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outside of 2009....with the talent LSU has had annually, I'd have to say overall they have underachieved
I agree. But I'm not merely looking at talent. Consider the overall investment. Elite basketball teams make the sweet 16 more often than not and some years go further. The same should be true of any sports investment. The baseball team should be winning games in Omaha more often than not. Heck, mainieri can't even get there much less win games much less make it to the finals. And he's only had to go on the road once since then. His postseason resume is starting to look like bianco's.

Having said that, he did get ripped off in 2010. He would have had to travel but, you never know what could happen after that.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39993 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:15 am to
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The baseball team should be winning games in Omaha more often than not.

This right here tells me all I need to know about your knowledge of how the game of baseball and the landscape of college baseball works. Carry on.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:21 am to
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Holy stupidity son.. you need to logoff, you're just full of stupid..
this is great. Criticize without saying anything substantive. Let's hear your case Einstein. And btw, I'm not the only person in this thread who agrees with the point.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:24 am to
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tell me what goals/benchmarks LSU should be achieving that they are not at the present time?
I've already said it multiple times
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85309 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:25 am to
He's wrong about "more often than not". But a few of these teams have underachieved. That's not an insult. Many teams under and overachieve every year. LSU just had a couple of years recently where they didn't finish like they were easily capable of doing: Losing to Houston at home. And 0-2 in 2013. Other than that, I'd say we either met the realistic expectations or surpassed them.

I know a lot of people put stock in reg. season wins and SECT wins. And they're good accolades to have, but there's a different standard here... one that I'm proud of. The bar is set at a CWS championship. Skip understood the value of everyone having that expectation... that desire... fans, players, coaches and administration alike.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
20611 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:27 am to
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I've already said it multiple times


Can you link me to where you said it? Because "more often than not" isn't really specific.
This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 10:28 am
Posted by LSUTygerFan
Homerun Village
Member since Jun 2008
33232 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:31 am to
pfffft... average fans...
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:32 am to
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Dumping money into a program doesn't automatically have to equate to winning the CWS every few years. 
this is the 3rd time my statements have been mischaracterized. Why is it so hard to have a discussion without the obligatory strawman?

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Sometimes you run into a hot team and lose. Sometimes you make a decision or two that cost you a game. Sometimes your team goes cold late
I have already said that I'm ok with outliers. I completely understand the scenarios you presented but they don't affect the overall point one bit because they are outliers. In general, elite programs are in Omaha and winning games there on a regular basis. Lsu should be at the forefront. Has that been happening? No.

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I think once you start to understand that not everything is black and white and not everything can be tabulated with money signs, you'll be a lot less miserable
first you have no idea whether I'm miserable or not. Fyi, i'm not. Second there is nothing in the history of sports that suggests the point is wrong. In general, the teams with the most money win more.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85309 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:37 am to
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In general, the teams with the most money win more.
In the regular season but not always post season, especially not within the last 15 years.
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:38 am to
i want lsu to win every year
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85309 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:39 am to
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85309 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:40 am to
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“Anything you vividly imagine, ardently desire, sincerely believe and enthusiastically act upon must, absolutely must come to pass.”
-Skip
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:44 am to
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He's wrong about "more often than not
Prove I'm wrong.

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 I'd say we either met the realistic expectations or surpassed them. 
for the most elite baseball team in america?? You have pretty low standards.
Posted by LSUTygerFan
Homerun Village
Member since Jun 2008
33232 posts
Posted on 5/5/15 at 10:47 am to
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for the most elite baseball team in america?



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