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Posted on 11/13/16 at 3:15 pm to Mulat
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Coach O beat the gumps,
Coach O's game plan against Bama is what LOST the game.
125 yrs at home man. It was a horrible coaching job.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 3:23 pm to SportTiger1
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Coach O's game plan against Bama is what LOST the game.
125 yrs at home man. It was a horrible coaching job.
You mean Les Miles's Game Plan. In all fairness, it's very difficult to revamp a 12 year offensive scheme at midseason against the #1 team in the nation.
I believe Coach O and Company did the best they could to utilize different formations, but it's no match against a great coached Saban defense.
However, if you give Coach O a year in the offseason with a proven Offensive Coordinator, then it could have been a little different.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 3:45 pm to Mulat
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He beat the gumps, period.
You are a lost cause. Carry on
Posted on 11/13/16 at 3:48 pm to Brazos
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Dude we got 125 yards the whole game . No amount of holding calls on Bama would have helped our offense score points. Bama was and is the better team.
If our O-line was allowed to hold like that on every play we may well have scored 17-24 points.
Or if their o-line was ever flagged for holding they don't score either so we go to OT tied 0-0 and whichever team's kicker comes through wins.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 3:57 pm to Number 31
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Or if their o-line was ever flagged for holding they don't score either so we go to OT tied 0-0 and whichever team's kicker comes through wins.
That's cool. two different lsu vs bama games were played that night. Yours would go to OT at 0-0. The one i watched they won by ten so we would have still lost 3-0. Let me guess the refs did something to give them the field goal too, right?
Posted on 11/13/16 at 3:59 pm to Mulat
...still waiting on the specifics behind your baseless claim. Guess all i will get is crickets because the refs didn't actually lose the game for us.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 4:04 pm to Tiger Tracker
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That's cool. two different lsu vs bama games were played that night. Yours would go to OT at 0-0. The one i watched they won by ten so we would have still lost 3-0. Let me guess the refs did something to give them the field goal too, right?
Not necessarily. If the right calls were made on the TD play (they could have thrown multiple flags for holding), we can afford to play more conservative on offense and might not turn the ball over. The strategy is completely different on offense if they hadn't scored.
Those non-calls decided the game.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 4:05 pm to Tiger Tracker
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the refs didn't actually lose the game for us.
No, but they definitely contributed. There's no way of knowing how the game would've turned out had they done their jobs competently.
This post was edited on 11/13/16 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 11/13/16 at 4:14 pm to Number 31
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There's no way of knowing how the game would've turned out had they done their jobs competently.
That's true. There's no way of knowing. I just don't like the fact that people are making claims that it's because the refs cheated for Bama. Refs miss calls all the time. It always favors one team over the other, somehow. If we played better on offense then we wouldn't be having this conversation.
I agree a call was missed, but i disagree the refs did it "for" bama or to sabotage LSU like many on here are implying. Score more points and this is a non issue. Coming to the rant and complaining about that (bama privelege, cheating refs, etc) is why we lost is just whiny and childish. It makes our fanbase look like whiny bitches who make excuses for poor offense.
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The Refs "missed penalties" and biased penalties against LSU, advancing the gumnps agenda. Destroying our timing, which affected our plays dependent on timing - Passing
shite like this is a prime example of making excuses for our poor offense. Somehow the refs play calling advanced the "bama agenda" while simultaneously throwing off the timing of our passing game. I mean...really?
This post was edited on 11/13/16 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 11/13/16 at 4:22 pm to Tiger Tracker
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shite like this is a prime example of making excuses for our poor offense. Somehow the refs play calling advanced the "bama agenda" while simultaneously throwing off the timing of our passing game. I mean...really?
Much of your post I understand clearly and to some extent agree with you, enough to think about why I Posted the Topic and took this position.
Here is why:
I believe we won the game, the score does not reflect this but the Refs behavior insured that two teams who are very evenly matched, chose the winner.
And worst of all Coach O's future may be a result of what the Refs did, not the Team
This post was edited on 11/13/16 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 11/13/16 at 4:29 pm to Tiger Tracker
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Refs miss calls all the time. It always favors Bama somehow.
Fixed it.
Non-calls on the holding of Key and Neal on the TD play (and a dozen others), Vadal's personal foul penalty in 2014, PP7 INT...
When is the last time we benefitted from a controversial call against Bama (or Auburn for that matter)?
The only one I can think of is the Eric Reid interception in 2011, and that was an easy call, and the right call.
These days, they'd have overturned it and given Bama the TD.
That game (the GOTC) changed things with regard to officiating. Since then every year they benefit from bad calls and non-calls at critical points in the game.
This post was edited on 11/13/16 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 11/13/16 at 4:34 pm to Mulat
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I believe we won the game
What statistics do you have to back that up? To me there aren't any.
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the score does not reflect this but the Refs behavior insured that two teams who are very evenly matched, chose the winner.
This isn't the first nor the last time a bad call altered a game. My point is believing the refs did it intentionally or had some agenda against LSU just makes us look like pitiful losers. You cant prove that is the case so why not focus on stuff we can improve upon like the offense.
People on here ranting about the "unfair and biased refs" just make our whole fan base look bad. It's annoying and needs to stop. The blame falls on the LSU offense and gameplan. That's what LSU has control over, and that's where we came up short. Period.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 4:50 pm to Number 31
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That game (the GOTC) changed things with regard to officiating. Since then every year they benefit from bad calls and non-calls at critical points in the game.
That's just sad. You're now telling me the last 5 lsu bama games were lost due to officiating? Let me give you a shocking news flash: LSU has been out coached in every single one of those games. You know why? Because les miles didn't change his fricking offense for 5 years. Then O decided to run that same gameplan again. I mean this isn't frickin rocket science here. You're a truly terrible fan if you believe the refs caused all those losses to Bama.
Read this entire Saturday Down South article, and you will understand what i mean.
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Was it a hold? Neal, to his credit, wasn’t about making excuses Monday.
“There are a lot of things that could have been done differently,” he said when asked about the no-call. “I don’t make excuses. That’s just me as a player. I just have to execute and make that play.”
His coach was not so diplomatic. While he didn’t address the hold directly, LSU interim head coach Ed Orgeron did note that he would inquire about several calls from the Alabama game.
“We have several (calls) we’re going to send over to the league office,” Orgeron said. “I usually don’t do it, but this week I did. But I think there were some very questionable things out there that happened, and I would like to know the explanations.”
Was it a hold? My initial reaction when watching the play develop live was to say, “This is coming back. There was a hold.” Then, I was surprised not to see a flag.
But at the same time, I wasn’t outraged by it. Calls are missed during the course of a game, even by the best crews having their best days. As they say, holding can be called on just about any play (but I will say, a call that happens right where the play is developing really should be called).
Neal certainly wasn’t blaming a no-call for the outcome.
“I feel like if that play is made, (the score would still be) 0-0,” he said. “But I just have to keep moving forward and deal with what the refs call. They call the game, I don’t. You just have to keep playing.”
These things, after all, do tend to even out.
With 3:11 left in the game and Alabama leading 7-0 and driving for more, facing 3rd-and-goal at the LSU 2, Crimson Tide left guard Ross Pierschbacher was called for a false start. But on replay, there was no indication Pierschbacher jumped, flinched or anything else that would warrant the flag.
And Alabama went on to settle for a field goal.
So bad call against Bama right there. We could have taken advantage of that but we didnt. We could have taken advantage of the great defensive play we had all night but we didnt. So again, stop whining about it. Move on from it, and hope we get a coach that can run an offense. This little bitch fest on the rant doesn't do any good.
LINK to article
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:21 am to Tiger Tracker
I am going to conclude from your comments you are Not a Coach O supporter 
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:02 am to Mulat
Mulat, 2 types of fans,those who can accept defeat by a better team and whiney little bitches. Even your fellow LSU fans know which category you belong in, matter of fact you are the king of whiney little bitches. It must suck to be you, how long did it take you to get over 21-0.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:14 am to Mulat
Although they missed the call we didn't score a point. Let it go
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:17 am to Mulat
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I am going to conclude from your comments you are Not a Coach O supporter
Why? Because he's not accepting the participation trophy?
You can either learn from the game and get better to give yourself a chance to win next time. Or cry about it.. LSU and O went out and beat the hogs soundly so I'm guessing they went back to work.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 3:32 pm to General13
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O went out and beat the hogs soundly
So
quote:You are support Coach O for continued HC if he wins out?
General13
Posted on 11/14/16 at 3:34 pm to Mulat
Doesn't matter. You have to score to win. We could have played all night and still wouldn't have scored a point
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