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re: THREE defensive AA and 4th and Aranda struggled!!

Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
164217 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:26 pm to
Now take those AAs and Dave away and we’ve got the 6-6 team everyone predicted. Some of y’all need to be sterilized and/or have your children sterilized.
Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
10850 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:29 pm to
kys
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

Every defense in America is expected to keep the other team from the Endzone in that situation. Especially a defense with 3 All Americans and a $2 million coach.



Every offense is expected to get one first down in that situation.
By the end of the game, defenses get worn out. It’s reasonable to expect some plays to be given up late in the 4th quarter. What’s not reasonable is to need 1 first down late in the 4th quarter and not be able to get it.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

I’ve seen far more dominant defenses at LSU in the past.



Like 2011 when the team had like 18 people drafted into the NFL that year?
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

Where did I say our defense was mediocre? Where did I say the offense was good?

The OP pointed out that we had 3 All Americans on our defense and I added that we pay our DC the most money in the county. I’ve seen far more dominant defenses at LSU in the past.


You're missing the entire point of the comments about our offense. Statistically (excluding ATM) this has been one of the worst if not the worst offenses LSU has seen since Jimbo left. Yes I've seen much more dominant defenses too but not many (if any) with offenses this bad.

You can focus on one play of one game as a factor he is overpaid or whatever point you're trying to make, but let's look at the big picture. In that one game the offense should have already put it away but was too scared to pass. Less the UGA game, looking at the entire season our defense is why we ended up 9-3 instead of 6-6.

So if you think Aranda is doing a great job and our defense is good what's the point of your comments?

These threads trying to equate a bad play or two called on defense means Aranda is overrated is just ridiculous.

Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
63210 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 4:51 pm to
I’m not saying Aranda sucks, and I’m not saying our offense is good.

I’m saying we pay the DC the highest salary in the country and we had 3 All Americans on the field. It’s not crazy to ask the defense to not get worked silly in the first half and to be able to stop a drive when you have a 7 point lead and the other team is facing 4th and 18 from their own 39 yard line with 29 seconds left and 0 time outs.
Posted by LSUFanMizeWay
Picayune MS
Member since Sep 2014
6144 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 5:02 pm to
Are you trying to set a record for downvotes
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17231 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 5:05 pm to
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Don't you know you can't have a great defense when the offense sucks
-the rant
wait... I thought it was: If you have a great offense your defense automatically sucks?
Posted by Bayoufightingtiger
Member since Aug 2011
4608 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 5:14 pm to
4th and Aranda now. Got rid of 3rd and Chavis
Posted by Smell the crawfish
In enemy territory
Member since Nov 2018
1542 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 5:18 pm to
I agree. I thought his decision to just rush three in OT against A&M was a horrible call and was one of the reasons we lost. Their qb is at his worst when he's made to run out of the pocket, yet we allowed him to pick us apart. I think he's a good coach, but I also thought he was out-coached in some situations!
Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
5754 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 5:33 pm to
Agreed. Please god let Aranda leave so Eaux can hire his own coordinator. Then we'll be set just like we are with offense
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

It’s not crazy to ask the defense to not get worked silly in the first half and to be able to stop a drive when you have a 7 point lead and the other team is facing 4th and 18 from their own 39 yard line with 29 seconds left and 0 time outs.


No it's not, but we're talking about what 1 game here? The OP didn't just simply comment on one game. He said that the D has been mediocre all season which is simply false.

If you're talking about one play or one half of a game ok sure the D didn't deliver, but what point does that prove by itself?
Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
5754 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 5:40 pm to
Hell yea. 4th and Aranda. Fire his arse. Promote meatball. Eaux has shown he can hire great coordinators. Do it
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7266 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 5:48 pm to
quote:

Hell yea. 4th and Aranda. Fire his arse. Promote meatball. Eaux has shown he can hire great coordinators. Do it




I am not sure our fanbase truly grasps how bad this team would be without Aranda. Maybe it's time to take this team back to the really dark days so OP can truly understand how dumb his post is.





Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
5754 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 5:56 pm to
no they don't lol

I agree.

Do it. Would laugh so hard at Eauxs hire post Aranda
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
37279 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:12 pm to
If Aranda was "mediocre at best" then the rest of our staff needs to be arrested for stealing money from the university.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

These threads trying to equate a bad play or two called on defense means Aranda is overrated is just ridiculous.


Exactly.

The defense can’t always stop everyone. Bad matchups are going to happen. We were out several key players on defense in the A8M game. If Fulton was playing, their one receiver that kept kicking our arse would have likely been a non factor for most of the game

Sometimes the offense has to win one for the team.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:16 pm to
quote:

I’m saying we pay the DC the highest salary in the country and we had 3 All Americans on the field. It’s not crazy to ask the defense to not get worked silly in the first half and to be able to stop a drive when you have a 7 point lead and the other team is facing 4th and 18 from their own 39 yard line with 29 seconds left and 0 time outs.


Was it too much to ask the offense to get one first down?
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
37279 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:17 pm to
Someone on here said it best after the Florida game

It's insane that with some LSU fans, the standard for our defense is "absolute perfection" while the standard for our offense is "serviceable".

Hell we were only in OT of the A&M game after our defense scored a TD for us
Posted by PhillipJFry
Member since Sep 2016
1022 posts
Posted on 12/7/18 at 6:23 pm to
Yea,

This entire idea of Dave Aranda being the issue at LSU is extremely misplaced.

Our offense was/is god awful. In the UF and Tamu game, if our offense can just get a first down we are 11-1. GTFO with the hate on Aaranda. I simply don't get it.

Btw, who put those 3 AA in a positison to succeed?
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