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re: Those who were truly concerned after

Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:54 pm to
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No one has less credibility than you on this entire board because you simply CANNOT admit, you are constitutionally incapable of admitting, that Miles makes errors.


Ive admitted many times that Miles has made and continues to make errors....just like every other coach in the country. Its just that im not blinded by hate so i can understand the difference between coaching mistakes and player mistakes. Unlike you and the other sheep on this board that blame Miles for everything....blame him for everything, give him credit for nothing.

But while you're over there wallowing in misery and bitching like a 14 year ole emo chick...i'll be over here enjoying the season and a soon to be 7-0, top 10 ranked football team.
This post was edited on 10/15/10 at 12:57 pm
Posted by Uncommon Cents
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2008
14381 posts
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:54 pm to
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That has everything to do with coaching.


And nothng to do with a kid blowing an assigment? Tell me what team anywhere has played the perfect game. Tell me which team anywhere has had no mental errors by the players during a game. Let me guess you never played sports but are a whizz at Madden.

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You quite obviously don't know a lot about football

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95817 posts
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:55 pm to
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I have a feeling that IF we were to go undefeated and win the title, ya'll would STILL be bitching about Miles.


Of course they would - the same jackholes were bitching about the 3OT losses WHILE we were prepping for the big game, almost implying we would somehow be MORE in the big game had we won those games against tough, SEC opponents.

Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117718 posts
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:56 pm to
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but I worry that continued close play will lead to a loss that shouldn't have been.

Oh, you mean like when Saban was here?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95817 posts
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:58 pm to
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And nothng to do with a kid blowing an assigment?


UC, let's face it - players coached by Belichick, Saban, Parcells, Meyer, Carroll, etc., simply don't have mental breakdowns, make mistakes or blow assignments. They never do because those teams have "real" coaches. Therefore, they never lose games unless somebody "outlucks" or "outtalents" them.

(All of those guys are outstanding cheaters, by the way...)
Posted by MsGulfCoastTigerFan
Ocean Springs,Ms.
Member since Dec 2007
2450 posts
Posted on 10/15/10 at 1:00 pm to
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Those who were truly concerned after
the UNC, Tennessee and Florida games probably still are. Those games should have been put away long before the last play(s) of the game.

Those who see the talent that this LSU team has are still concerned that it is not being used to its potential - a potential that will be required to continue winning.

This team can not rely on Les' luck if it expects to beat Auburn, Alabama and Arkansas.

I appreciate what Les has done while at LSU, but I worry that continued close play will lead to a loss that shouldn't have been.


ksliman I understand what you are trying to say. Although Les and the team has done a good job going forward, I want to be first inline to act like a little bitch incase something happens I don't like. Examples, a close win, Jefferson playing more than 4 snaps or God forbid we lose in any fashion.
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 10/15/10 at 1:02 pm to
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Ive admitted many times that Miles has made and continues to make errors....just like every other coach in the country. Its just that im not blinded by hate so i can understand the difference between coaching mistakes and player mistakes. Unlike you and the other sheep on this board that blame Miles for everything....blame him for everything, give him credit for nothing.


Well, Miles is the head coach of LSU football and has been for six years.

As such, he is ultimately responsible for every recruit LSU signs, every assistant coach hiring, every decision about what scheme to run, every decision about personnell, every decision about game management and clock management, every aspect of practice, every play of every game.

He's the head coach. That's what it means to be the head coach. You can't be the "head coach" and then try to insulate yourself from responsibility for various aspects of the program.

Moreover, I have on repeated occassions bluntly explained my opinion of Miles: He is a great recruiter and a very mediocre gameday coach. His assessment of assistant coaches is still in question. On the one hand, he hired Chavis. On other hand, he retained Crowton and, almost unforgiveably, promoted his two moronic cronies to Co-DC in 2008.

Overall, I don't knwo whether that combination of atributes can regularly win SEC titles, which is the ultimate goal here.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 10/15/10 at 1:05 pm to
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Well, Miles is the head coach of LSU football and has been for six years.

As such, he is ultimately responsible for every recruit LSU signs, every assistant coach hiring, every decision about what scheme to run, every decision about personnell, every decision about game management and clock management, every aspect of practice, every play of every game.


And yet...with all this...players still make mistakes that are out his control.

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His assessment of assistant coaches is still in question. On the one hand, he hired Chavis. On other hand, he retained Crowton and, almost unforgiveably, promoted his two moronic cronies to Co-DC in 2008.


Pelini, Wilson, Gonzo
Posted by darkdaysof dinardo
Minden
Member since Jan 2007
419 posts
Posted on 10/15/10 at 1:14 pm to
Routine?!? When was the last fumbled punt or TD on special teams. I bet you have no idea without looking it up. Routine means common. It has been years since. Figure out what you are talking about, before you simply b@#$% & moan about a 6-0 team & coach.
Posted by MsGulfCoastTigerFan
Ocean Springs,Ms.
Member since Dec 2007
2450 posts
Posted on 10/15/10 at 1:16 pm to
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Moreover, I have on repeated occassions bluntly explained my opinion of Miles: He is a great recruiter and a very mediocre gameday coach. His assessment of assistant coaches is still in question. On the one hand, he hired Chavis. On other hand, he retained Crowton and, almost unforgiveably, promoted his two moronic cronies to Co-DC in 2008.

Overall, I don't knwo whether that combination of atributes can regularly win SEC titles, which is the ultimate goal here.


So by luck Miles has just kept winning, I guess you would rather a coach who is mediocre at recruiting, but he coaches up everyone who plays. You know what happens there, 2 to 3 losses every year. The coach you think you want rarely exist.
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 10/15/10 at 1:21 pm to
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So by luck Miles has just kept winning, I guess you would rather a coach who is mediocre at recruiting, but he coaches up everyone who plays. You know what happens there, 2 to 3 losses every year. The coach you think you want rarely exist.


No, I'd prefer a coach who recruits well AND is sound tactically.

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You know what happens there, 2 to 3 losses every year.


Not sure where you are going with this. LSU has suffered four or more losses each of the last two seasons. And at least two losses in every season under Miles before that.
Posted by TailgatingTiger26
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
765 posts
Posted on 10/15/10 at 1:35 pm to
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remember when xavier lee knelt it at the one? Or early muffing punts against uf? How bout a bluegrass miricale to beat kentucky or losing to troy and.... you get the idea.


Xavier Carter not Xavier Lee.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33361 posts
Posted on 10/15/10 at 2:00 pm to
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we allowed a kickoff return because our lane assigments were absolutely crap. We blew a lane assigment. It was mental error. That has everything to do with coaching.

Les says it was because Alfred Blue didn't go in for that kickoff, he is the headhunter. Some freshman went in and totally whiffed on the tackle. Makes you wonder why he was even in there in the first place.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
33361 posts
Posted on 10/15/10 at 2:05 pm to
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remember when xavier lee knelt it at the one? Or early muffing punts against uf? How bout a bluegrass miricale to beat kentucky or losing to troy and.... you get the idea.

No coach is perfect
They happen to all coaches, Les has more than his share.

This is a coach who has pulled 3 wins out of his arse in only 6 games, one against the 2nd string of powerhouse UNC, one on a last play at home gimme by the worst Tennessee team to put on a uniform in the last 10 years, and another on a lucky bounce on a fake field goal.

You get the idea.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95817 posts
Posted on 10/15/10 at 2:22 pm to
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You get the idea.


TnA - I got the idea a long time ago.

Where were you in 1994?
Posted by ksliman
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2006
1166 posts
Posted on 10/15/10 at 3:12 pm to
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IF we were to go undefeated and win the title


Do not confuse concern with lack of support for the team. I am not predicting a melt-down and multiple losses. I am only pointing out that the luck, breaks, karma (pick a noun) cannot be counted on to win close games.

Also, being happy with success and worried if it will come to be are 2 different things.

If LSU were to succeed I would obviously be ecstatic because it would mean that the problems that we fear were corrected. But until I see fewer mistakes and better use of the talent on the field I will continue to be concerned.

Posted by ksliman
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2006
1166 posts
Posted on 10/15/10 at 3:13 pm to
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LSU wins and it's luck, LSU loses Miles is a bad coach?
Gotcha.
Deep thinker aintcha?


Deeper than you if that is what you took out of the post.
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
Down by the docks of the city
Member since Dec 2004
15210 posts
Posted on 10/15/10 at 3:14 pm to
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UC, let's face it - players coached by Belichick, Saban, Parcells, Meyer, Carroll, etc., simply don't have mental breakdowns, make mistakes or blow assignments.



Are you serious? That is the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. I could cite dozens of examples for every coach you listed. You must be trying to sarcastic.
Posted by ksliman
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2006
1166 posts
Posted on 10/15/10 at 3:16 pm to

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MsGulfCoastTigerFan


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ksliman I understand what you are trying to say


From most of the responses I think you are the only one.
Posted by Dallasgrowl
Abilene, Texas
Member since Oct 2003
7088 posts
Posted on 10/15/10 at 3:29 pm to
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Did Les' "luck" have anything to do with PP muffed punt or the punt return for a TD against UF?

There's nothing lucky about winning nearly 80% of your games.


If Less was able to instill as much discipline within the team as you do with your broken record posts, there would be very little to talk about on this subject. Unfortunately, both of you are entirely too consistent with your ridiculous ways of working.
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