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There's only one question: Is Ed Orgeron a coach that could be elite?
Posted on 11/5/18 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 11/5/18 at 1:21 pm
If you believe he is the type of guy that could be considered an "elite" coach, that could win multiple NC's, or the very least multiple SEC titles and get to the CFP, that could help outscheme the Sabans, Urbans, and Dabos of the world, that could build the type of program that has LSU perennially in the CFP conversation at the end of the year...
If you believe "No" to all of that...then what the frick are we doing here? You go for a guy who you believe can be. You swing for the fences. And if it doesn't work out you go for that guy again.
Ed is a nice man. A great recruiter. I actually think he's a decent HC.
LSU can do better than decent.
So...do you believe O can be elite? Yes or No.
If you believe "No" to all of that...then what the frick are we doing here? You go for a guy who you believe can be. You swing for the fences. And if it doesn't work out you go for that guy again.
Ed is a nice man. A great recruiter. I actually think he's a decent HC.
LSU can do better than decent.
So...do you believe O can be elite? Yes or No.
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 1:21 pm to Fun Bunch
Of course not 
Posted on 11/5/18 at 1:22 pm to Fun Bunch
with the right OC, yes
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 11/5/18 at 1:23 pm to Fun Bunch
Far from elite. I honestly kind of want to try out Dino Barbers, I think he could become an elite headoach given the right resources.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 1:23 pm to jgriffith
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with the right OC, yes
And the right DC and the right everything
Posted on 11/5/18 at 1:23 pm to jgriffith
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with the right OC, yes
With the right OC / DC and SC, perhaps.
LSU has the right DC in place. Another year with Canada and LSU is probably still in the playoff mix at this point in the year.
Orgeron has made mistakes and it looks like he'll continue to make mistakes.
I'm worried he hasn't learned from the mistakes that made him a failure at Ole Miss.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 1:24 pm to Fun Bunch
No.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 1:24 pm to Fun Bunch
If he finishes 11-2 he deserves every benefit of the doubt he has what it takes to be elite one day. Not there yet.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 1:24 pm to Fun Bunch
He's an innovative OC away right now.
eta: That stood out for Bama Saturday. On top of having Saban and the best players. Their OC was calling plays perfectly. Running directly away from blitzes. Calling pass plays that find holes in the secondary. That freaking screen pass call was money. A good OC goes a long way. Meanwhile, Ensminger insisted on calling play-actions that took forever to develop.
eta: That stood out for Bama Saturday. On top of having Saban and the best players. Their OC was calling plays perfectly. Running directly away from blitzes. Calling pass plays that find holes in the secondary. That freaking screen pass call was money. A good OC goes a long way. Meanwhile, Ensminger insisted on calling play-actions that took forever to develop.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 11/5/18 at 1:25 pm to Fun Bunch
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Is Ed Orgeron a coach that could be elite?
No way on this earth. Still laughing...
Posted on 11/5/18 at 1:26 pm to Fun Bunch
he’ll never be perfect
Whether he’s elite or not depends on what he does at OC
The fact that we’re very capable of going 10-2 in a year where Vegas has us 7-5 in his second full year, im optimistic about his ability to prepare the team and make them play better than they are, because let’s be honest, we have no real playmakers on this team aside from Delpit maybe.
I think next years class helps with that, Stinglet and Emery are instant game changers and big play guys.
Whether he’s elite or not depends on what he does at OC
The fact that we’re very capable of going 10-2 in a year where Vegas has us 7-5 in his second full year, im optimistic about his ability to prepare the team and make them play better than they are, because let’s be honest, we have no real playmakers on this team aside from Delpit maybe.
I think next years class helps with that, Stinglet and Emery are instant game changers and big play guys.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 1:27 pm to RuLSU
Our special teams has been good this year, even outside of cole Tracy
Posted on 11/5/18 at 1:27 pm to Mr6daveyobrians
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Emery
Won't do shite if the o-line doesn't get fixed.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 1:28 pm to RuLSU
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With the right OC / DC and SC, perhaps.
Wouldn't this kind of make him, by definition, not elite?
Posted on 11/5/18 at 1:28 pm to Fun Bunch
Nope, Nope, and Nope
Posted on 11/5/18 at 1:29 pm to MightyYat
We’ve played 6 different O Line combinations this season
It’s not up to our normal standards but we only lose one guy, chemistry will get better, and we bring in a good OL class.
And Emery is the type of player who makes plays out of nothing, he’s going to be a hell of a lot closer to Hill/Guice than Brossette/Helaire
It’s not up to our normal standards but we only lose one guy, chemistry will get better, and we bring in a good OL class.
And Emery is the type of player who makes plays out of nothing, he’s going to be a hell of a lot closer to Hill/Guice than Brossette/Helaire
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 11/5/18 at 1:29 pm to Fun Bunch
Of course not and the LSU leadership knew that when he was hired. Complete- “We don’t give a shite”
Posted on 11/5/18 at 1:30 pm to Fun Bunch
Coach O is what he is. Surrounded by elite coaching, I believe he can certainly be adequate. He will never be an "elite" HC, in my opinion. I really wish my earlier opinions had been misplaced.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 1:30 pm to Fun Bunch
Dabo does almost nothing offensively or defensively for Clemson yet is a top 3 coach in the country. Makes the right hires, always has the players ready and recruits well.. knows how to run the program
Posted on 11/5/18 at 1:32 pm to Fun Bunch
No, and as far as I was concerned with the hire, he was never meant to be a long term option. He was simply a way to bridge the gap and get enough money off the books for 3-4 years until we were able to do a hard reboot.
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