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re: The state of LSU football and the last 4th down play.....
Posted on 10/25/10 at 7:17 am to c on z
Posted on 10/25/10 at 7:17 am to c on z
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it was a substitution issue.
I disagree, it's a COACHING issue.
Yes, we're 7-1. That doesn't mean our coaching has been unacceptable this year, and the last 2 years.
Lee was thrown in again at the end to bail out Les, but couldn't do it this time. Luck runs out unfortunately...
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 7:22 am to Trent
C'mon guys!!! It had to be planned!
First off, the 10 we had out there were lined up before the playclock even started...WHICH NEVER HAPPENS FOR LSU under Les, EVEN AFTER A TO! Second, you are going to tell me that after all that mass confusion of bringing people on and off and running around like a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off, that we actually lined up legally, with the correct personnel, EVEN had the time to go in motion, and snapped the ball without a false start or delay of game!!! I guarantee ya'll that play has been worked on by our team
First off, the 10 we had out there were lined up before the playclock even started...WHICH NEVER HAPPENS FOR LSU under Les, EVEN AFTER A TO! Second, you are going to tell me that after all that mass confusion of bringing people on and off and running around like a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off, that we actually lined up legally, with the correct personnel, EVEN had the time to go in motion, and snapped the ball without a false start or delay of game!!! I guarantee ya'll that play has been worked on by our team
This post was edited on 10/25/10 at 7:24 am
Posted on 10/25/10 at 7:26 am to hondapa26
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First off, the 10 we had out there were lined up before the playclock even started...WHICH NEVER HAPPENS FOR LSU under Les, EVEN AFTER A TO! Second, you are going to tell me that after all that mass confusion of bringing people on and off and running around like a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off, that we actually lined up legally, with the correct personnel, EVEN had the time to go in motion, and snapped the ball without a false start or delay of game!!! I guarantee ya'll that play has been worked on by our team
Did the execution of the play look like something they've worked on before? It didn't to me.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 7:26 am to hondapa26
pahahahahahahahahaha 
Posted on 10/25/10 at 7:28 am to tojoe
It is a coaching failure that should not be tolerated. THis team would NOT miss Crowton if he didn't show up today! We would be fine if not better.
It was too fancy of a play. Tolliver is a senior and he didn't know where the frick to go and only Lee was trying to help. Shep finally got onto the field and tolliver moverd over and someone then stepped up to the line on teh right side to make it a legal formation, but you cannot get me to believe everyone knew/ran the correct play. Tolliver literally ran 3 yds (not enough for the first) and turned around to see lee scrambling. He then proceeded to try a "basketball" block-out move to keep his guy from going get Lee!
WTF was the call and will we ever know what was actually supposed to happen? Were they drawing it in the dirt? How come they wait till the last second to run on the field and line up? THey had 3 minutes at least during the timeout. Was Crowton scribbling the new play on paper to see if it would work?
Gary Crowton's offense has wreaked havoc on this university and all of our lives for years now. It has now cost us a shot at a national Championship! Isn't that in itself enough financial damage to warrant a firing? What does it take for him to be fired? IT's a Bye week, get it done!!!!
His offense couldn't even get the starters on the field for the last play. What dies ut take?
It was too fancy of a play. Tolliver is a senior and he didn't know where the frick to go and only Lee was trying to help. Shep finally got onto the field and tolliver moverd over and someone then stepped up to the line on teh right side to make it a legal formation, but you cannot get me to believe everyone knew/ran the correct play. Tolliver literally ran 3 yds (not enough for the first) and turned around to see lee scrambling. He then proceeded to try a "basketball" block-out move to keep his guy from going get Lee!
WTF was the call and will we ever know what was actually supposed to happen? Were they drawing it in the dirt? How come they wait till the last second to run on the field and line up? THey had 3 minutes at least during the timeout. Was Crowton scribbling the new play on paper to see if it would work?
Gary Crowton's offense has wreaked havoc on this university and all of our lives for years now. It has now cost us a shot at a national Championship! Isn't that in itself enough financial damage to warrant a firing? What does it take for him to be fired? IT's a Bye week, get it done!!!!
His offense couldn't even get the starters on the field for the last play. What dies ut take?
Posted on 10/25/10 at 7:28 am to VernonPLSUfan
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Why does the whole team need to go to the sidelines.
not only that, but the entire offensive team joins them from the bench...it looked like the pre-game hype huddle before they back to the locker room. I'm not sure they even discuss the play.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 7:30 am to Powerman
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Did the execution of the play look like something they've worked on before
are you really asking this??? YES is my answer, it actually did look like many other shitty offensive plays we have had this year, that I'm sure are worked on at practice...
The functioning word of your statement is execution! Obviously, whatever play it was, it was not executed correctly, unless the plan before the play was to not get the first down
Posted on 10/25/10 at 7:34 am to the LSUSaint
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someone then stepped up to the line on teh right side to make it a legal formation,
It was Deangelo Peterson, who was lining up as a running back before shephard even stepped on the field, but then just slowly walked up to the line and got set while shephard and TT were switching sides of the field. How did Peterson know to just go from RB position to the line to line up correctly? He struggles with it all the time even though his freakin position is TE! the play was planned IMO...I don't care what anyone says. And, I hate Miles and Crowton, so I am not looking through MILES lover glasses
Posted on 10/25/10 at 7:35 am to the LSUSaint
Germans......to those with half a brain.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 7:37 am to the LSUSaint
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How come they wait till the last second to run on the field and line up?
WTF are you talking about??? They didn't! 10 were lined up before the playclock even started which is out of the ordinary for LSU under Les even after a fricking timeout...and it just so happens that TT, our go to guy BTW was appearing to run off the field just before the ball was snapped! then murphy goes in motion to the opposite side of the field that TT was on, thereby creating a one-on-one for TT! It was planned! but it busted! which is not atypical under Les(s)
Posted on 10/25/10 at 7:37 am to the LSUSaint
it makes you think....what on earth did they do during that timeout??? 
Posted on 10/25/10 at 7:42 am to memphis tiger
.......That's Les Miles football............
Why should we expect anything different!
I love it, camera pans the sidelines...........Les has his finger in his nose....................( again)
Then the players are "not organized" or "fully engaged" or maybe "don't understand" what is suppose to take place!!
Welcome to LSU Football under the current administration!!!
Why should we expect anything different!
I love it, camera pans the sidelines...........Les has his finger in his nose....................( again)
Then the players are "not organized" or "fully engaged" or maybe "don't understand" what is suppose to take place!!
Welcome to LSU Football under the current administration!!!
Posted on 10/25/10 at 7:45 am to hondapa26
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Second, I think the confusion was planned in an attempt to confuse AU in order to get TT wide open.
If this was the case, shame on Miles for not neing able to come up with something better. BTW I don't think this was the case, we have seen it too many times.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 8:02 am to memphis tiger
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BTW I don't think this was the case, we have seen it too many times.
YES! We have seen it too many times under MIles. HOwever, this was the first time that we were actually lined up before the playclock started and got the play off, despite the mass fricking confusion, without a penalty...the play just wasn't executed to perfection, which is not a surprise to me from our offense under MIles!
Posted on 10/25/10 at 8:50 am to Skin
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that was designed trickery by the madhatter. he tried the substiroosky again, but unfortunately auburn didn't change personnel when Shep entered from the sidelines.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:26 am to Trent
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Lee was thrown in again at the end to bail out Les, but couldn't do it this time. Luck runs out unfortunately...
Lee was not just thrown in because it was his series. It's not like he was brought in for the first time during the game to play. Lee's problem was Fairley and the fact the o-line could not block him. Just a week ago, everyone was calling for Lee to be the fulltime starter and never realized that made him a sitting duck against the better defensive lines in the SEC, because the pass protection is not very good.
From what I saw, the offense moved better against the Auburn defense with JJ playing THIS week. The AU defense actually played off JJ as the game went on because of his rushing and pressured JLee.
It makes sense though because I don't believe the AU defense could stop Cam Newton either.
We got beat because we couldn't tackle a 250lbs, sub 4.5 (4.4 or 4.3) running QB. We had the wrong defensive scheme and Crowton wanted to pass despite a poor pass protection schemes. Even after he saw Fairley running into the backfield, he still chose to run plays his way instead away from him at the very least. He simply no in-game feel for where pressure is coming from and how to counteract it.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:59 am to hondapa26
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WTF are you talking about??? They didn't! 10 were lined up before the playclock even started
I understand where you are coming from bro, I guess what I should have said was they need to break up that big fricking on field huddle, that includes everyone but the Golden Girls, so they can make sure they have the 11 guys they need and that there are NO questions from the players!
Let's not forget, JJ WAS IN THAT LAST HUDDLE TOO! AND HE WAS ON THE SIDELINES, SHOULDN'T HE HAVE REALIZED THE PERSONNEL WASN"T ON THE FIELD? OR WAS HE frickING POUTING ON THE SIDELINES LIKE USUAL AND DISCONNECTED FROM HIS TEAM?
We can right this ship, I'll help Aleva out!
1. FIRE CROWTON'S arse
2. NAME LEE THE STARTER FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON (allowing him the practice time and confidence he needs and keeping the players from boycotting Miles)
3. DO NOT ALLOW LES MILES IN THE HUDDLE AT THE END OF A GAME! Actually, make him go to the booth at the end of the 3rd!
Posted on 10/25/10 at 10:03 am to the LSUSaint
10 men on the field in this situation after a time out on the most important play of the season is a fire-able offense imho.
Another inexcusable act for a man making $4 mil a year, just add it to the list I guess.
Another inexcusable act for a man making $4 mil a year, just add it to the list I guess.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 10:08 am to LSU-MNCBABY
quote:plus mother fricking one
10 men on the field in this situation after a time out on the most important play of the season is a fire-able offense imho.
Another inexcusable act for a man making $4 mil a year, just add it to the list I guess.
lol at our fans thinking les designed this confusion.
les is a clown
Posted on 10/25/10 at 10:09 am to c on z
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It wasn't clock management, it was a substitution issue.
Your point being?
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