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re: The Orgeron Extension Talk: Why?

Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:17 pm to
Its amazing how anything but blind allegiance is considered melting.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:20 pm to
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Because I’m not sucking Os unit like you?

He doesn’t need a contract extension this year to recruit. Even you admitted that


No I didn't thats a omission and misrepresentation, Mr. "Attorney"

It's apparent many allegedly intelligent people on this board don't know what it takes to succeed in college football from a long-term perspective so I'll spell it out for you like you're a third-grader:

-We're making breakthroughs in recruiting this and next year
-After 2 full WINNING (but unremarkable) seasons and with a diminishing buyout, this season could reasonably be construed as a make or break year for O's future
-by all accounts, O has a good reputation with the players, they love playing for him
-he's nationally known as a great recruiter and we don't want to stop the momentum we have at this point

Now here's the conclusion, "Counselor," and everyone listen up: Through the reasonable inference that this is a make or break year for O with all the strides made recruiting-wise, do we want to risk the big picture and greater good by leaving his tenure up in the air throughout the season and opposing coaches poaching our in-state recruits? As a presumptively risk averse attorney, I'd presume you'd be in agreement on this and only concerned about the size of the buyout. CASE CLOSED.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294267 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:21 pm to
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Its amazing how anything but blind allegiance is considered melting.


Absolutely not true.

However if 90% of your posts on the subject are negative, you've got a problem.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:21 pm to
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Why is O being lauded for hauling in a top class in a year Louisiana is loaded with multiple 5 star talents and a plethora of top 100 kids. 

You all are acting like he’s done the unimaginable here. He’s had the worst rated class in like 15 years when he didn’t have Louisiana with a major load of great talent in the class. He’s done nothing new with recruiting and it isn’t better than Miles has done when Louisiana was loaded. Somehow he’s improving things though. ? 

LSU has 3 top 5 classes in Miles’ last three years including two top 2 finishes. Ed isn’t doing better as far as total talent is concerned.


You shut your mouth.
This isnt 2005-2016.
Averging 3.5 losses a year and averaging the 6th best sec class over 2 years is crushing it.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:23 pm to
Sammy's not an attorney. He works the night shift at jack in the box.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78114 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:24 pm to
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After 2 full WINNING (but unremarkable) seasons and with a diminishing buyout, this season could reasonably be construed as a make or break year for O's future


Because it is.

And recruits will know how that’s going based on our W and Ls.

Not because 8 months before the season we gave O an extension.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:24 pm to
At no point has any recruit ever not signed with a school over a coach's contract. Coaching contracts in no way creat stability. Coaches are hired and fired regardless of contract lenght all the time. Giving O an extension in no way HELPS lsu right now. It can only hurt lsu in the future.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:25 pm to
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Sammy's not an attorney. He works the night shift at jack in the box.


Unprovoked personal attack. Still not learning anything from your break i see.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:25 pm to
Patrick Surtain says hello.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:26 pm to
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Absolutely not true. 

However if 90% of your posts on the subject are negative, you've got a problem.


And if 100% of your posts are purple and gold fairy tales and excuses?


Saying there was no need to extend a coach isnt melting.
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:28 pm to
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Patrick Surtain says hello.





You mean the guy that said titles was the reason he chose bama?
quote:

Why Alabama?” Surtain said live on ESPNU. “Because there’s a coach over there. They win championships. Over here (Fort Lauderdale’s American Heritage High School), we’re used to winning, so I want to be a part of that winning culture.”


Dont let facts get in the way of your posts.


Like i said. Winning creates stability. Not contracts
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 2:31 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294267 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:31 pm to
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And if 100% of your posts are purple and gold fairy tales and excuses?


They're not

Yours were just a few years ago.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78114 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:31 pm to
And apparently I never Sleep.
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 2:32 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294267 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:32 pm to
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Saying there was no need to extend a coach isnt melting.


there's nothing to melt about.

No details have even been released.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78114 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:33 pm to
O had 4 years on his co tract when Surtain flipped to Bama.

What was unstable about that?

Please explain it to me I dont understand Ben.

What was unstable about O after a 9-4 season with a 2-4 records vs teams over .500?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:35 pm to
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They're not ? 

Yours were just a few years ago.


Link. I always admitted Miles had flaws and never called 3 loss seasons great.
Unlike you, my level of expectations dont change depending upon the coach.

I never laid offensive production at the Strenght and Conditioning coach's feet.
I never called miss st or any inferior team more talented than lsu during miles' tenure.

Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3710 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:35 pm to
Since Orgeron has always been a stop-gap, figure head coach, yes, this is the perfect time to talk about succession planning. Orgeron would struggle to put together winning seasons if he hadn't inherited Aranda.

If LSU doesn't begin succession planning discussions now, it will have no leverage once they extend O.



Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294267 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:36 pm to
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If LSU doesn't begin succession planning discussions now, it will have no leverage once they extend O.


We have some world class experts on the Rant
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

had 4 years on his co tract when Surtain flipped to Bama. 

What was unstable about that? 

Please explain it to me I dont understand Ben. 

What was unstable about O after a 9-4 season with a 2-4 records vs teams over .500?


Exactly. Winning and losing is what creates stability.
Surtain knew he would win titles if he went to Bama.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294267 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 2:37 pm to
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I always admitted Miles had flaws and never called 3 loss seasons great.


You're still fighting tooth and nail to preserve his legacy
This post was edited on 2/1/19 at 2:39 pm
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