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re: The not too distant future and why LSU will never be Elite...
Posted on 1/3/11 at 7:00 pm to Tigerfan53
Posted on 1/3/11 at 7:00 pm to Tigerfan53
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First your a clown for saying LSU will never be elite
Actually, your a clown for not reading the context.
I think LSU IS ELITE NOW, idiots who claim LSU is no longer Elite because of Miles are as retarded as those of you who apparently think LSU is entitled to the next great coach just by virtue of being LSU.
I know, I know; Gruden, Blah, Blah, Blah...
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Second I agree that Les Miles is a good coach and I would also like him to stay
No problem for me
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Third, this is a premiere job and I don't think it would be hard to get another prime time coach.
Name the 'Prime Time' Coaches out there that we'd have a legit shot at... Just for giggles, since it's so easy give me just three...
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Posted on 1/3/11 at 7:05 pm to SouthernMan
Why does no one mention the TCU coach? I would like to have him if Les leaves.
Posted on 1/3/11 at 7:06 pm to LJBurton
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Ask me again later.
Have you spoken to said coaches, or did you consult the Mystic Eight Ball?
Posted on 1/3/11 at 7:07 pm to SouthernMan
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Name the 'Prime Time' Coaches out there that we'd have a legit shot at... Just for giggles, since it's so easy give me just thre
our job is not to give you three. we're fans.
but no doubt joe alleva has a want list 10 deep with contact numbers of agents the second he has a hint that Les is moving.
secondly, our situation is what it is. there are a lot of coaches that could succeed here with our recruiting base, resources, facilities, and loyal and homegrown recruiting base.
Posted on 1/3/11 at 7:08 pm to LSU Fan 90812
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LSU's program will continue to be good as long as Louisiana continues to pump out the most talent per capita of any state in the union
Louisiana has been doing that for years, go back and look at the 90's for example - how'd that work out for LSU?
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as long as the LSU administration continues financially supporting the football team and does what it needs to do to win.
What does that even mean? Are you talking 'All in' like Auburn or just spending un-godly amounts of money on facilities and uniforms like the Oregons and Okie States of the world?
Hint - Everybody is doing it....
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LSU's program is big business
Agreed
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It makes almost 40 million dollars per year
> 43M for the last few
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Which means it's in the top 5 biggest football programs in the country
Where's the trophy for that?
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that's elite. and it's not going anywhere regardless of the coach.
Signed Nebraska, Tennessee, Alabama for 20 years prior to getting our sloppy seconds, USC and well you get the point... Well you probably don't but that's not surprising...
Posted on 1/3/11 at 7:10 pm to SouthernMan
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SouthernMan
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Posted on 1/3/11 at 7:12 pm to GREENHEAD22
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Why does no one mention the TCU coach?
Perhaps because he has been mentioned for several jobs and has said flat out he's staying at TCU?
He's probably the only one out there that gets tossed around that would make me comfortable with the transition but like everything else, no guarantees..
Posted on 1/3/11 at 7:14 pm to Jet12
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Jet12
Where's the panic?
I think we are one of the best five teams/programs in the country right now and short of replacing Crowton I don't think we have anything to worry about unless....
Posted on 1/3/11 at 7:17 pm to SouthernMan
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Louisiana has been doing that for years, go back and look at the 90's for example - how'd that work out for LSU?
it worked out with two horrible hires from a program trying to hire a coach on the cheap. that would not happen in today's landscape.
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What does that even mean? Are you talking 'All in' like Auburn or just spending un-godly amounts of money on facilities and uniforms like the Oregons and Okie States of the world?
Hint - Everybody is doing it....
on the up and up.
not everybody can do it like we can. because our program makes money.
quote:there's two sitting in a case at the brand new Football Operations Building. And there's soon to be a cotton bowl trophy in there.
Where's the trophy for that?
and the money and resources are in itself a reward for the program, because they will be used by the program.
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Nebraska
change in environment, couldn't keep up with the rise of the SEC and southern talent. midwest/northern football as a whole isn't what it used to be. has nothing to do with coaching.
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Tennessee
national recruiters. lost their base, and couldn't cherry picky from georgia florida anymore.
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Alabama
tried to hire on the cheap, and in the family. finally spent the big bucks. look where it got them. right back on top. also went through a probation.
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USC
does USC seem to be struggling? because it seems to me that they're still recruiting their asses off despite a brand new coach and being on probation.
if LSU does their due dilligence and uses all of their resources, it doesn't make sense that they would strike out on a coach. the instruments for success here are too plentiful. i can "get" any line of pathetic logic you want to throw out.
This post was edited on 1/3/11 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 1/3/11 at 7:31 pm to SouthernMan
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why LSU will never be Elite
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Actually, your a clown for not reading the context.
Actually, you're the clown for using the word "never" to mean "never again"
Posted on 1/3/11 at 7:39 pm to LSU Fan 90812
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it worked out with two horrible hires from a program trying to hire a coach on the cheap. that would not happen in today's landscape.
OK, pick a decade. LA has ALWAYS produced top talent 'per capita' because we have great 'little league' and HS football, always have, always will.
Has every LSU hire prior to CNS just been doomed because they tried to go on the cheap?
Arnsparger wasn't on the cheap, and you can say he did fairly well, how long did that last?
Bo Rein wasn't a cheap hire, may he rest in peace, nor was the 'emergency hire' made after his death.
The point is that you really have no idea how a 'forced' coaching change is going to turn out.
SHOULD LSU be able to hire a good coach, yes!
Will they, who knows?
I though TJ was going to be heralded as a GREAT hire by now but a growing number of Tiger Fans are convinced he needs to be run out on a rail.
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not everybody can do it like we can. because our program makes money.
Just for giggles go back and look at the financials pre-Miles.
While the program has always made money it has-by far-been more profitable than EVER under Les 'Freakin' Miles, for the record!
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there's two sitting in a case at the brand new Football Operations Building.
Who put them there?
BTW, how many of our School's 'any coach will do' coaches have won such a trophy?
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Nebraska
change in environment, couldn't keep up with the rise of the SEC and southern talent. midwest/northern football as a whole isn't what it used to be. has nothing to do with coaching.
That's is a chicken scratch cop out. Change of environment = TO retired and Fans went nuts when FS didn't win Back to Back National Titles.
At least be honest.
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Tennessee
national recruiters. lost their base
It's all so easy to explain away, huh?
I'm curious if you think UT has any of that money tucked away like LSU...?
Hint, they have plenty!
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tried to hire on the cheap, and in the family. finally spent the big bucks. look where it got them. right back on top. also went through a probation
you really have no idea, they tried EVERYTHING.
They finally saw a PROVEN WINNER that should have never left college available and they were willing to sell their souls because they knew how hard it is is to find a Nick Saban and have the opportunity to get him.
There are no Nick Sabans available at present.
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if LSU does their due diligence and uses all of their resources, it doesn't make sense that they would strike out on a coach
But it happens ALL the time!
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i can "get" any line of pathetic logic you want to throw out.
If you say so
Posted on 1/3/11 at 7:40 pm to SouthernMan
Do the damn thing Michigan!
Posted on 1/3/11 at 7:42 pm to emanresu
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Actually, you're the clown for using the word "never" to mean "never again"
Actually I don't 'mean' either.
I think LSU IS Elite and I think they always will be for the most part.
The headline, and the rant was a dig at those who claim LSU has 'fallen' from Elite status due to the hat.
Posted on 1/3/11 at 7:47 pm to SouthernMan
You should move to Ann Arbor and change your handle to NorthernMan!
Posted on 1/3/11 at 7:50 pm to HooDooWitch
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You should move to Ann Arbor and change your handle to NorthernMan!
Not. sure. if. supposed. to. be. funny.
K, princess - time for night night.
Posted on 1/3/11 at 7:55 pm to SouthernMan
OK, pick a decade. LA has ALWAYS produced top talent 'per capita' because we have great 'little league' and HS football, always have, always will.
Yes. Archer and Hallman, especially. Even DiNardo.
sure. and just for giggles go back and look at pre saban financials.
not any coach will do. But a lot of coaches can do.
no change in environment means that TV money took over. Nebraska is the least fricking cool place in the world. Who the frick would want to play in nebraska, other than nebraskans.
Just because the fans went nuts doesn't mean that they made a bad hire.
their success came before bigtime bowl money and big spending on football coaches. it's an arms race now. and they don't have the recruting base like LSU. Tennessee doesn't have instate talent. And they no longer can cherry pick.
If they have so much money, why did they have so much shite luck hiring someone, and why have they paid them ducats compared to what les and saban make?
you really have no idea, they tried EVERYTHING.
Hint: there are always good coaches available for the right price. that's a fact jack.
i do say so. because you have essentially urinated all over yourself in this thread and come off like a totally illogical, ranting lunatic. This coupled with your condescending phrasing tossing out words like "hint" like you're some sort of football insider makes you seem like a douchebag in addition to being an idiot.
Why didn't you just make this yet another one of the lame PRO MILES threads that abound, instead of just skirting around the bush?
This whole thing might as well be you saying, "wah wah wah wah. our coach is under appreciated. you'll be sorry when he's gone. you reawwy will. wah wah wah wah."
someone should take your posting privileges away for the idiocy you've spewed in this thread.
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Has every LSU hire prior to CNS just been doomed because they tried to go on the cheap?
Yes. Archer and Hallman, especially. Even DiNardo.
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Just for giggles go back and look at the financials pre-Miles.
While the program has always made money it has-by far-been more profitable than EVER under Les 'Freakin' Miles, for the record!
sure. and just for giggles go back and look at pre saban financials.
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BTW, how many of our School's 'any coach will do' coaches have won such a trophy?
not any coach will do. But a lot of coaches can do.
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That's is a chicken scratch cop out. Change of environment = TO retired and Fans went nuts when FS didn't win Back to Back National Titles.
no change in environment means that TV money took over. Nebraska is the least fricking cool place in the world. Who the frick would want to play in nebraska, other than nebraskans.
Just because the fans went nuts doesn't mean that they made a bad hire.
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It's all so easy to explain away, huh?
I'm curious if you think UT has any of that money tucked away like LSU...?
their success came before bigtime bowl money and big spending on football coaches. it's an arms race now. and they don't have the recruting base like LSU. Tennessee doesn't have instate talent. And they no longer can cherry pick.
If they have so much money, why did they have so much shite luck hiring someone, and why have they paid them ducats compared to what les and saban make?
you really have no idea, they tried EVERYTHING.
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They finally saw a PROVEN WINNER that should have never left college available and they were willing to sell their souls because they knew how hard it is is to find a Nick Saban and have the opportunity to get him.
There are no Nick Sabans available at present.
Hint: there are always good coaches available for the right price. that's a fact jack.
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If you say so
i do say so. because you have essentially urinated all over yourself in this thread and come off like a totally illogical, ranting lunatic. This coupled with your condescending phrasing tossing out words like "hint" like you're some sort of football insider makes you seem like a douchebag in addition to being an idiot.
Why didn't you just make this yet another one of the lame PRO MILES threads that abound, instead of just skirting around the bush?
This whole thing might as well be you saying, "wah wah wah wah. our coach is under appreciated. you'll be sorry when he's gone. you reawwy will. wah wah wah wah."
someone should take your posting privileges away for the idiocy you've spewed in this thread.
Posted on 1/3/11 at 8:01 pm to LSU Fan 90812
The last thing we need is for Miles to leave. Look around : Miami got Temple's coach 
UF got Will who's never been a head coach. Tennessee got Dooley, an unproven at the major college level. Pray Miles stays and wake up.
UF got Will who's never been a head coach. Tennessee got Dooley, an unproven at the major college level. Pray Miles stays and wake up.
Posted on 1/3/11 at 8:03 pm to SouthernMan
I have trouble thinking we can be elite with GC. I see LSU as a perpetual sort of a VT with exceptional D and barely enough O.
Posted on 1/3/11 at 8:08 pm to tiger81
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The last thing we need is for Miles to leave. Look around : Miami got Temple's coach
Miami has shite facilities, is located in the hood, and competes with four other BCS conferences schools in it's own state. They've also been a shade over mediocre for the past 7 years, both in recruiting and in on field success.
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UF got Will who's never been a head coach.
Yeah. the guy handpicked to be Texas's head coach. Huge mistake.
quote:already went over that.
Tennessee got Dooley, an unproven at the major college level. .
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Pray Miles stays and wake up
if i did pray, it wouldn't be for something as ridiculous as a football coach staying at a school.
If LSU can handle the loss of Saban, it can handle the loss of Miles.
Posted on 1/3/11 at 8:17 pm to LSU Fan 90812
Miami has multiple National Titles and is sitting in an area which is a football factory. The point is three major programs with equal tradition to LSU came up empty. We've been down this road before and failed... it was called most of the 90's. Pray Miles stays.
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