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re: The following QB's had worse Efficiency ratings than JJ

Posted on 12/14/09 at 6:53 pm to
Posted by HoumaTigerFan
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Posted on 12/14/09 at 6:53 pm to
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nd theyre all on pretty mediocre teams, except masoli


And Jefferson is no exception.


LSU is NOT a mediocre team!!! Why must everyone say that???!!! We are 12th-13th in the COUNTRY!!!!
We have a very poor offense.
Posted by PRIDGENTIGER
TN
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:01 pm to
you didn't really say he was ignorant but i knew you would come back if i made that statement. Answer the question. Did matt flynn suck?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:02 pm to
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How did we fare in offensive ranking from game 1 to 12?


So this defaults to the QB?



Posted by PRIDGENTIGER
TN
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:03 pm to
All these dumb asses that say he took to many sacks, do you know that through 10 games he only had 9 more sacks than flynn. Just sayin
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:08 pm to
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you didn't really say he was ignorant but i knew you would come back if i made that statement. Answer the question. Did matt flynn suck?


so you dont lie about being a liar.
awesome.

Why is so important for you to know If i believe MF sux or not?
Of course I dont... I dont think JJ sux either.
I just dont think he is as great as you do.
THis really isnt that big of a deal pal, you should really find another cause in your life.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:08 pm to
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Does JJ do the following better in game 12 than in game 1


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Read Defenses?
Yes

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Avoid sacks?
He can't block FOR the OL.

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Throw the ball with any kind of accuracy past 7 yrds?
As much as he was allowed.

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How about 3rd efficiency?
This is all a QB's fault?

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How about holding on to the ball?
He took very few sacks from "holding the ball too long". Most sacks came before he was set.

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Make defenses "back up" b/c of the potential of throwing the football past them or "over their head" as some coaches put it.
Playcall issue.

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How about leaving the pocket too early?
What pocket? lulz.

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How about his progressions? what game or point in the season did he develop the ability to find his second or third option on a pass play when his primary wasn't open?
Are you serious? When did he ever have time to go through progressions?

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nd just for shits and giggles where was the improvement on running the option?

You mean the option to the short side? Late in the season he ran it pretty well, it just wasn't open. Anyone with eyes could see that.


Most of the issues you have with JJ would be better directed at the OL and the piss poor coaching/playcalling.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9605 posts
Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:12 pm to
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luckily for him, the 30 sacks he took didn't count against it.


+1000000000000
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:12 pm to
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Roaad


what a typical response.
You blame it all on everybody and everything except JJ.
I, as many others have said its a combo of all involved.
Is it that hard for you to grasp?
DO you wanna be on JJ's nuts that bad?
Posted by PRIDGENTIGER
TN
Member since Jan 2006
828 posts
Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:12 pm to
Just forget it. They won't realize that jj got better throwing the long ball( see the deep ball he threw to rr that was right in stride in the ole miss game), that in his last game he took far less sacks. He spread the ball around all yr( so hearing nfl commentators talk about going through progressions and then just labeling a qb with having trouble doing that, lsu was the only school with 2 recievers ranked in the top 50), having a great comp% throughout the year. Every dumb arse on here saying that jj is the reason our running game sucked( nevermind you run to set up the pass, not the other way around). If you played football tigerlee you'd know all this
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24555 posts
Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:14 pm to
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luckily for him, the 30 sacks he took didn't count against it.
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+1000000000000



I'd rather JJ take a sack and have to punt than throw it up for a pick six.

+10000000000000000000
Posted by PRIDGENTIGER
TN
Member since Jan 2006
828 posts
Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:15 pm to
its not a cause in life. Just when i'm logged on her and see idiots like yourself spew bullshite i call them out. You sit there and say jj doesn't go through his progressions. How in the hell would you know. You don't know his reads or the play called. You don't know shite about being a div 1 qb and you get on here and say jj isn't good. He had the same stats as flynn
This post was edited on 12/14/09 at 7:19 pm
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:15 pm to
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I'd rather JJ take a sack and have to punt than throw it up for a pick six.

+10000000000000000000


well unfortunately for you this isnt a talk about JL.
Nice try though.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24555 posts
Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:15 pm to
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Just forget it. They won't realize that jj got better throwing the long ball( see the deep ball he threw to rr that was right in stride in the ole miss game), that in his last game he took far less sacks. He spread the ball around all yr( so hearing nfl commentators talk about going through progressions and then just labeling a qb with having trouble doing that, lsu was the only school with 2 recievers ranked in the top 50), having a great comp% throughout the year. Every dumb arse on here saying that jj is the reason our running game sucked( nevermind you run to set up the pass, not the other way around). If you played football tigerlee you'd know all this



I still haven't gotten one response to how Jefferson could possible take us down the field for a game tying field goal against Arky. He made a big time throw to Randle over the middle of the field while standing tall in the pocket.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24555 posts
Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:17 pm to
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well unfortunately for you this isnt a talk about JL.
Nice try though.



It has everything to do with what happened to Lee last year. Jefferson, above everything else, made sure to not turn the ball over this year. And YES, it caused him to hold on to the ball too long and get sacked. That's his fault and can be fixed. No need to bench him like 55555555douche thinks.
This post was edited on 12/14/09 at 7:18 pm
Posted by AcetylCoA
Pasadena, California
Member since Nov 2009
2654 posts
Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:19 pm to
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I'd rather JJ take a sack and have to punt than throw it up for a pick six.

+10000000000000000000


+1
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:20 pm to
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spew bullshite

translation//////////// anyone who doesnt share same opinion as you.
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You don't knoq his reads or the play called


no, but I do know that pass plays have more than one intended reciver.
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You don't know shite about being a div 1 qb and you get on here and say jj isn't good.

He isnt good, hes avg.[
quote]He had the same stats as flynn[/quote]
bang the drum.

Gees not only do you lie but you are hardheaded as well.
Dont get so bent out of shape over a difference of opinion dude.
Sorta the purpose of this board.
This post was edited on 12/14/09 at 7:21 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:21 pm to
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You blame it all on everybody and everything except JJ.
I should blame JJ for being inexperienced? Not his fault they wasted all of last season on J. Lee, is it?
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I, as many others have said its a combo of all involved.
If it is a combo, then why has JJ done better than Flynn from a pure statistical standpoint. . .when Flynn had a better team?

There is a common thread between those two, and Lee from last year. Are you saying that Flynn, Lee, and JJ are all just terrible QB's? That is letting the coaches off the hook.

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Is it that hard for you to grasp?
It's hard for you to admit you are wrong, I see.

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DO you wanna be on JJ's nuts that bad?
I was unaware I was dealing with a child.
This post was edited on 12/14/09 at 7:24 pm
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:22 pm to
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I still haven't gotten one response to how Jefferson could possible take us down the field for a game tying field goal against Arky.


Seriously, JJ sucks WAY too bad for that to happen, so I would have to say that it never occurred.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:25 pm to
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He isnt good, hes avg
he's a better passer than all the guys listed in the original post.
Posted by PRIDGENTIGER
TN
Member since Jan 2006
828 posts
Posted on 12/14/09 at 7:25 pm to
dude i lied to get you to anwer a question u were dodging. Also you couldn't possibly know for sure if jj doesn't get off his first read. Do you see his eyes every play? Do you know who the firsst read is? Do you even know the play called? The answer to all this is no. So sitting there saying he positively doesn't get off his first read is spewing bullshite. You are getting owned. Thanks for playing little girl. He put up the same stats as flynn, who you'd prob give hand job to, with no running game and shite for playcalling.
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