re: The following QB's had worse Efficiency ratings than JJ

this is unbelievable.

wow...what a thread. 2010 cant get here fast enough and jj throwing for 30 td's and 3000 yd's.

not that i think this will happen but if it does i wonder if the jj haters will still think "what if perriloux wasnt a screw up"

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and theyre all on pretty mediocre teams, except masoli

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Some lsu fans wouldnt even consider the tigers mediocre, more like terrible and a program heading towards the dumps. So considering that, then JJ did exceptionally well.

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Taking into account that LsU finished 108th offensively and Tulane 106th, are you really trying to convince us that Tulane has a better O Line and running game than LSU? And thats why their offense ranks higher?

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I'll answer your question first. . .

No they don't. However, the way LSU's OL played, they might be a middle ranked unit in CUSA. They were EASILY the worst unit in the SEC.

By alot.

But the problem isn't talent. LSU's OL is full of talent. The problem is that there are 107 teams with better OL coaching than we do. LA Tech DOMINATED our DL. Now do you think that is coaching or talent?

Now let me ask you another question, son. Are you insinuating that Tulane has a better QB than LSU?

if so. . .lawlz

Why does JJ get a pass by so many? JJ was part of the problem, imo, a big part of the problem. Hopefully he will be significantly improved next year, mainly in the mental aspects of the position, and we can look for a normal LSU offense.

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Why does JJ get a pass by so many?

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Because we look at the situation objectively. Who would you like to substitute into '09 with same O-line?
Do you think Mallet would do better? Look at his performance when Tiger D got after him in 1st half.
McElroy had no better stats with protection and a killer rush attack.

Much is made of:
not stepping up into pocket- What pocket? On the rare occasion there was one, what would cause him to expect it would remain stable?

7 step drop- You mean the one coaches designed to keep him away from afore mentioned collapsing pocket?


his holding the ball- There would have been much less offense and a lot of grounding, incompletions and ints if he slung it every time there was pressure. He scrambled out of a lot of bad situations. Negatigers only remember times he got caught.

his throwing motion- Agreed not textbook, but accounts for < .5sec and not a major factor.

Ranters holler about CG to be given a chance. This isn't no-contact practice or spring game. How would a less mobile QB fare with this O-line?
Pray tell?

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How would a less mobile QB fare with this O-line?
Pray tell?

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Stud, I dont have to insinuate anything.

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I'll just post what the NCAA states as a fact.

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Let's see it then. . .this is gonna be fun.

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Look at who is at #63, and who do they have at #67. You're starting to look idiotic in your defense of JJ based on stats. Oh and BTW, Tulanes QB, is a soph.

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So you are willing to trade 16 touchdowns for, uhhh, 9?



Griffin ranks 75th in pass efficiency. JJ, 38th.

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Also, he passes for 197 yards per game started. JJ? 178 per game.

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Then why does it say Griffin's total offense is 147.00 per game against those manly CUSA, while Jefferson averages a studly (by comparison) 197 yards of total offense per game against SEC opponents?

Wheeeeeeeee!

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TIsuGGER

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You gotta bring it harder than that, son.

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The following QB's had worse Efficiency ratings than JJ

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Next years team hinges on much better Oline play. This is fact.


and coaching.

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Were you at LSU's practices? What specifically was Stud doing that was wrong.? What is his philosophy? Should they zone block more?
Did he teach proper technique re: fold blocking,pulling etc? Did he have guys playing out of position or better lineman sitting the bench?
Was your coach a good line coach? Since you know the coaching was bad,please respond to my questions!

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I agree with all of this. I would say, of the 30 sacks taken this year, five or less were Jefferson's fault.

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It would be absurd for any one to say the the 30 sacks were 100% Jefferson's fault. But if you truly watched some of the plays develop (or not develop in many cases) you would see that saying that only 5 or less sacks were Jefferson's fault is equally absurd!

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Roaad
The following QB's had worse Efficiency ratings than JJ

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how many times did JJ audible a run that went for more than 2 yards


I give up, how many times?


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he is required to make reads and checkdowns


In your first year as a starter? Not so much as you think.

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Yes,you do have to make reads and check downs as a first yr starter. That was JJ's biggest problem. He could not check out of bad plays or recognize a blitz. Most of the delay of game penalties occurred because the coaches had to call formations and plays from sideline as they saw them. JJ the looked at them again as the coaches frantically signaled audibles.Standing around waiting to get a play called so the off line can get their line calls doesn't help matters especially with a weak line and first yr center.

Last yr JL was crucified for everything. Interceptions thrown over the middle should not be returned for tds.It;s up to the offense to turn to defense and prevent tds. Every high school football player is taught this. Two pick sixes bounced off receivers hands into the defenders w/o effort by receivers to tackle the Interceptor.JL was bashed constantly. The reason JJ is being defendedso strongly is because you flute players predicted him to be second only to Tebow this yr based on the GT game where he completed passes rolling to his right yet was not very impressive dropping back.
JJ should be much better next yr allowing the coaches to be more agressive in calling plays. If you throw 5 to 7 yd passes,you will have a higher comp percentage. Look at the West Coast and Spread offenses. The Big 12 last yr was a prime example.QB ratings don't tell the whole story.
JJ,like JL.was an inexperienced QB last year.He should be able to run the offense better next yr as the speed of the game will slow down for him.