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The Disciplining of the LSU Team
Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:15 pm
Something that never made sense to me when Les was the coach.
He benched Jeremy Hill for a fumble, which he recovered. His benching arguably helped cost LSU that game against Ole Miss.
Fournette fumbled twice, and yet he still played.
J. Lee was benched for two interceptions against Bama, after previously leading the team to 9 victories at that point. Didn't sniff the field except to take a knee after that. Yet Mett threw two interceptions (al least ) against OM in his Sr. season and continued to play after that.
Trey Quinn Dropped two crucial passes against Bama and didn't see the field as a receiver until the Texas Bowl, yet Dupre dropped at least 3 passes under Miles and continued to play.
All added up, doesn't make sense, and just highlights the nonsensical coaching under Miles.
ETA: Eaux doesn't seem to have the same disciplinary approach as Miles.
He plays his play makers without all of this baggage attached.
He benched Jeremy Hill for a fumble, which he recovered. His benching arguably helped cost LSU that game against Ole Miss.
Fournette fumbled twice, and yet he still played.
J. Lee was benched for two interceptions against Bama, after previously leading the team to 9 victories at that point. Didn't sniff the field except to take a knee after that. Yet Mett threw two interceptions (al least ) against OM in his Sr. season and continued to play after that.
Trey Quinn Dropped two crucial passes against Bama and didn't see the field as a receiver until the Texas Bowl, yet Dupre dropped at least 3 passes under Miles and continued to play.
All added up, doesn't make sense, and just highlights the nonsensical coaching under Miles.
ETA: Eaux doesn't seem to have the same disciplinary approach as Miles.
He plays his play makers without all of this baggage attached.
This post was edited on 10/17/16 at 7:15 pm
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Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:15 pm to SP2016
Les was a different type of cat
Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:17 pm to SP2016
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J. Lee was benched for two interceptions against Bama, after previously leading the team to 9 victories at that point.
Thank God, we lose that game otherwise...
Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:17 pm to SP2016
Les showed favoritism. Simple as that.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:18 pm to SP2016
Seems like there's a lot of potential information missing in your hypothesis.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:18 pm to SP2016
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Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:19 pm to SP2016
I agree
Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:20 pm to ForeLSU
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Thank god we lose the game otherwise
So after Jefferson's poor performance in the fist half of the game, why didn't Lee get a shot??
Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:25 pm to SP2016
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He benched Jeremy Hill for a fumble, which he recovered. His benching arguably helped cost LSU that game against Ole Miss.
This one always stood out to me. It took a special level of dumbass to do something like that.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:27 pm to SP2016
You are confusing discipline/punishment with Les feeling unable to trust said player. Either way, though, :whogivesashit:
Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:29 pm to SP2016
Trey quinn dropped a few but dupree dropped more and still played
Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:31 pm to FournetteForEver7
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Confusing
Les Miles seems the one who was confused in his lack of consistency regarding team discipline.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:34 pm to SP2016
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So after Jefferson's poor performance in the fist half of the game, why didn't Lee get a shot??
Because it was 9-0 at the half and Les was afraid of a quick pick 6 putting it out of reach. It was a horribly coached game, and Les should have been throwing the kitchen sink at Bama, so I'm not excusing anything.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:35 pm to SP2016
One thing that we don't know is the player's attitude about it. They could have said or done something in the moment which would make it impossible not to bench them. We can't call it stupid until we know all the facts.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:38 pm to ForeLSU
quote:Didn't look like we were going to win that one under Jefferson. Why not try something else?
Thank God, we lose that game otherwise...
Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:41 pm to ForeLSU
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it was a horribly coached game
Yes it was. And I recall Miles saying when asked about preparations what had the team been focusing on.
His response was "working on the basics." WOW Playing for the Natty and "working on the basics."
No discussion about watching film and developing plays.
The results of his approach are widely documented.
But this thread is not about that, though it adds to the Les Miles debacle over the last few years, which includes his nonsensical approach to team discipline of players for making mistakes in game.
This post was edited on 10/17/16 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:42 pm to Heresthetruth
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Didn't look like we were going to win that one under Jefferson. Why not try something else?
My response was about the game in November
Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:44 pm to SP2016
Les was a dipshit coach and made dumbass decisions.
Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:50 pm to SP2016
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His response was "working on the basics." WOW Playing for the Natty and "working on the basics."
I don't really recall that, it was reported that the team worked on a bunch of new stuff leading up to the game, just never called any of it. Les' mistake was thinking the game would be a repeat of the November game, so the "basics" were pretty important. And because it was within 2 scores through the 3rd quarter, he still thought he was in it.
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which includes his nonsensical approach to team discipline of players for making mistakes in game.
I'm sure it makes more sense than we realize, as the other poster said, unless you have insight into the player's reaction, how they practiced leading up to the game, etc. all play a role.
This post was edited on 10/17/16 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 10/17/16 at 5:55 pm to ForeLSU
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how they all practiced leading up to the game
However the in - game discipline for mistakes was uneven under Miles.
That's the point.
And yes, he did say prior to his last Natty that the LSU team was "working on the basics."
If you watched the game, then surely you can agree that was his approach.
This post was edited on 10/17/16 at 5:58 pm
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