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re: The Big Eye Doesn’t Lie

Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:26 am to
Posted by NC2007
Chicageaux
Member since Aug 2007
443 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:26 am to
el tigre - actually it was a 5 1/2 yard penalty...again, the refs gave an advantage to bama...maybe, if it is a full yard - bama punts...
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
26367 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:27 am to
Bad calls at Bama and Auburn are not new. LSU (and other teams) always get's the shaft when playing these teams near the SEC office. Been wondering for years when it would come to a head. Maybe that time is now.
Posted by lashinala
End of 565
Member since Jan 2006
5753 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:30 am to
Nah, this dies in a few weeks. Even more so if we lose again.
Posted by BamaInHsv
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
17889 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:34 am to
Lame article. There's always some excuse when the "good guys" lose.
Posted by drjeff17
lake charles, la.
Member since Aug 2008
1115 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:36 am to
if anything amplifies why we need a playoff, this does.
Posted by ATL Tiger 3
Atlanta, GA (Buford GA)
Member since Aug 2007
247 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:38 am to
very good article!

and i agree, we were shafted on the interception call!

nevertheless, it saddens me to admit we were still outplayed and outcoached.
our team discipline remains an albatross -as evident by continuing dumbass penalties. clock management remains horrid...we remain unable to take advantage of so much individual talent as a cohesive team unit~
This post was edited on 11/9/09 at 11:52 am
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:43 am to
quote:

The Southeastern Conference Offices in Birmingham, Alabama



hmmmmmmmm



quote:

Throughout the game the refs made call after call that appeared to favor Alabama, and go against LSU



very true. btw, I don't think the gumps have anything to do with any of this conspiracy thinking but something ain't right.


On target article Chris
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37041 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:48 am to
This may not be a popular thing to say with a certain segment of our fanbase (the whiny part perhaps) but I think this is a lot of misplaced emotional energy

the better team won, the refs screwed up some calls... and the peterson interception was a lousy lousy example... but enough - the better team won the game and that's the big story of interest on monday morning

if you want to write a year in review for the sec in which crap calls by officials are emphasized that would be fine if not appropriate
Posted by justustm2
Member since Sep 2005
4158 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:54 am to
quote:

He has a bad habit of turning away from contact right before he gets hit.


Like 95% of the QB's who play BCS and NFL football? In fact Miles stated he didn't want JJ to continue taking the hits. You can't be claiming JJ won't take a hit are you?
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
48814 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:55 am to
quote:

I want to preface my comments about the many bad officiating calls in this game by saying that I believe the better team on the field won.
How would you know that if calls were missed whether be by accident or purposely.
That makes this story lose some of its teeth with that comment.
Posted by LSU NO Tigah
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2005
5627 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 9:57 am to
Corruption in sports is nearly as old as sport itself. For those who don't "understand" how matchups can be created, you're incredibly naive. Just a call or two at the right moment in a football game is all it takes. These guys have been calling these games, sometimes for decades. Don't doubt that they know exactly what to call, when to call it and know that it will be "covered" by the SEC office. Our league and the officiating has been the joke of college football this year. Who can recall coaches so openly criticizing the officiating? I can't ever remember it on this level. Slive thinks he's invincible and that the SEC is invincible under his control. A frightening prospect and somewhat delusional. I believe that officiating should be turned over to the NCAA where officials aren't accountable to the money guys of the conference and they cannot be part of any conference agenda to create the most lucrative matchups. Rotating officials around the nation and giving them "professional" status would make them more accountable, especially if it's their full time careers rather than a part time gig that pays refs $500.00 per game. The lure of payoffs for these guys has got to be huge and given that Alabama boosters are used to paying big money to high school coaches, players, players' families, etc., the prospect of paying refs for a few calls seems all too real and completely plausible. The problem for the conference and refs is that the average fan now has the benefit of DVR, as well as watching the broadcast network replay that particular play from many, many angles. People are now non-believers in the "soundness" of officials and have video proof. As a result of this scrutiny, officials are now being called out by the fans, the coaches and even the league has to suspend some of them when they've been caught without a chance in hell of defending the call. It's time for change in the SEC. First and foremost, the SEC office needs to be moved completely out of the state of Alabama. That would be the first and best way to start to rid the SEC of its reputation of corruption. Mike Slive should long have been fired by that point and someone from another area of the country with an impeccable reputation should be brought in to administer the conference. Again, the officiating control should be removed from conference control and officials rotated nationally as full time officials. Until much of this happens, Alabama will continue to be the darling of the SEC offices, count on it. Many of you will ask why Alabama didn't benefit under Mike Shula's tenure as coach. My answer to that would be that they weren't good enough to keep games close most years and so couldn't benefit by "home cooking". That's all changed now that they are competitive again and a few "well placed" calls go a long way in winning against teams like LSU and Tennessee. Sometimes all it takes is one, perhaps an interception that's called an incompletion.
Posted by LSU NO Tigah
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2005
5627 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:04 am to
Another aside, for those of you who keep saying that we were beaten on the field statistically and so we "deserved" to lose that game, take a look at the stats of the Nebraska/Oklahoma game and tell me who should have won that game and then take a look at who actually won that game. Stats are not the score and we were leading going into the 4th quarter. Nebraska should have been beaten like a drum according to the stats but they WON on the scoreboard which is all that matters when that clock hits double zeros.
Posted by lostmarine
Maryville Tn
Member since Aug 2009
70 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:31 am to
quote:

You know why they get it right on the playground?


Integrity and respect for the game.
Posted by tiger1
El Dorado, Arkansas
Member since Aug 2004
86 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:35 am to
If I were Bobby Petrino, I would have walked in to Mike Slive's office and laid down a blank check. Then I would proceed to tell him about all this BS about officiating. It ain't about the coaches, Mike. It's about players who want to play great in great games and are denied that opportunity by replay officials who can't see or over zealous referees who see things that aren't. I thought that was the reason for the replay process anyway, to help make the correct call on crucial plays. When are we going to get back to the game is about the play and players on the field. Unfortunatelly, they don't have a voice nor a say. They just get penalized for somthing someone with an agenda saw or a great play is taken away because of a replay official who is biased if only a little bit. It doesn't take much. And why is using the helmet ok for Alabama but not for the player who did the same thing for LSU againt Tulane. Can we get some consistency here???
Posted by RelocatedPelican
Member since Dec 2008
1042 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:36 am to
Where the real conspiracy lies is in the calls not made in the LSU - Gump game ( ex. the Richard Simmons in a dildo shop type of holding the Gump-line was performing on LSU's D ) and when looking at other games. Bama should have lost to Tennessee. UF should have lost to Arkansas. Now Bama met a much better team in LSU, and the officials steered not just a few plays but 90% of the game their way. That's what fuels the conspiracy theory and moves it from the land of doubt to the most probable explanation.
Posted by popatop
Texas
Member since Apr 2009
68 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:47 am to
I gotta put my two cents in here. Chris Warner is a tried and true Tiger fan from a little town just south of Lafayette, just like myself. The whiners on here who are kicking him behind some of his comments are imho a little, if not, a lot, off base. Alabama has a good team and we have a good team. Obviously, this past Saturday, the refs blew several calls and it appears that they all favored the Bama nation. Conspiracy theory or just horrible refs in the SEC?
I think the beauty of college football is that all of us are up in arms due to the bad calls because our boys in purple and gold are playing for the love of the game. I HATE watching pro football because we have become desensitized by thugs like TO and Ocho Cinco into believing that it is about certain players and not the whole team.

Bottom line is this, the refs blew a few calls and we have to put a L in our column for this year. We need to work hard and take the refs out of next year's game by not allowing it to be close.

Cdub, Great job on the column. Call it like you see it.
Posted by MiketheTiger69
Moore/Norman, Oklahoma
Member since Jan 2004
3315 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 10:57 am to
I'm sure many on here will say the following comments belong on the poli board but, as in everything in life, there are parallels.

I find it ironic that so many on here who claim to be such staunch Conservatives and are okay with the unregulated practices of Wall St., are anti-union and anti-labor and in general so absorbed in making money at all costs find fault with the SEC in it's at least perceived, if not real, bias towards getting the most lucrative matchup possible for the SECCG and a place in the BCSCG. After all, money is what it's all about.
It's perfectly okay with them for Wall St. to engage in practices that rob people of their livelihoods, homes, health care and savings, but don't frick with their football team!
It's perfectly okay with them for companies to close down factories and outsource jobs putting Americans out of work thus virtually destroying the tax base for gov't.'s and Social Security yet increasing the wealth of the CEO's and owners, but don't frick with their football team!
It's perfectly okay with them for gov't. to have to cut the funding for seniors food programs or child care, but don't frick with their football team!
As in life itself, for the SEC and it's teams, when the pursuit of riches becomes your god, the end result is the same-you may get rich in the pocketbook but you get much much poorer in the bigger game of life.
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35711 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 11:01 am to
Wow, that is the best example I have ever seen of some lib making a bunch of stupid assumptions and stating them like they are facts.

And it does belong on the poli board. But you would get your arse handed to you there wouldn't you?
Posted by Templars
Member since Oct 2005
2999 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 11:07 am to
Though I agree and maintain some of the same beliefs, you can't use "Mike Slime", and actually expect to be taken serious. It's something that a child would say, and is rather "rant like". Your article, though well intentioned, would have been better avoiding such pitfalls.
Posted by Templars
Member since Oct 2005
2999 posts
Posted on 11/9/09 at 11:15 am to
You think that was fine writing? You must be a complete blithering idiot to think so. It's amateur hour and remarkably amusing, it gets a sticky.

This is a rant and as a rant it's fine - nothing more - nothing less. As a serious piece - lets be serious.
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