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T.A. F. Donation Change. What you may not know.
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:20 am
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:20 am
We all know lsu changed their donation policy this year. you must donate to the building fund ect. to get credit for the priority points.
What you may not realize, and I didn't until today, is this policy is retroactive. You could have played by the rules in the past for 15 to 20 years, donated a lot of money, and today it doesn't matter. you're starting all over. Your priority points can go from 300 down to 3000. from 1500 to 6000.
i understand lsu wants to raise more and more money. I understand the need to keep up with other universities. However, when you start punishing the very fans who supported you and have donated to you for the past 15 to 20 years, that is where i draw the line.
i may be wrong, however, i do believe lsu will not be able to brag about their 98% renewal next year. They caught a lot fan's off guard/ignorant as to how the new policy will/would work. as they find out, things will be changing.
i'm officially done. 8 tickets, a parking pass, and 6 grand a year will have to be picked up by someone else. i was part of the 98% renewal this year but will not be next year.
What you may not realize, and I didn't until today, is this policy is retroactive. You could have played by the rules in the past for 15 to 20 years, donated a lot of money, and today it doesn't matter. you're starting all over. Your priority points can go from 300 down to 3000. from 1500 to 6000.
i understand lsu wants to raise more and more money. I understand the need to keep up with other universities. However, when you start punishing the very fans who supported you and have donated to you for the past 15 to 20 years, that is where i draw the line.
i may be wrong, however, i do believe lsu will not be able to brag about their 98% renewal next year. They caught a lot fan's off guard/ignorant as to how the new policy will/would work. as they find out, things will be changing.
i'm officially done. 8 tickets, a parking pass, and 6 grand a year will have to be picked up by someone else. i was part of the 98% renewal this year but will not be next year.
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Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:23 am to dos crystal
Someone will gladly get your tickets
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:24 am to dos crystal
The thing that's pissing me off is that they set up rules and gave you a certain amount of time to arrange everything (donation and ticket-wise) accordingly.
Now, they keep changing the rules, but you're stuck with what you set up 6-7 years ago. When they change the rules, they should give you a certain window of time to arrange your tickets/donations accordingly. Further, changes should be prospectively.
For instance, five years ago, there was a chance of getting tickets out of the lottery. Now, due to greed, there is little to no chance. Yet, when they changed the policy, they didn't give you any chance to change your ticket holdings or donations.
Now, they keep changing the rules, but you're stuck with what you set up 6-7 years ago. When they change the rules, they should give you a certain window of time to arrange your tickets/donations accordingly. Further, changes should be prospectively.
For instance, five years ago, there was a chance of getting tickets out of the lottery. Now, due to greed, there is little to no chance. Yet, when they changed the policy, they didn't give you any chance to change your ticket holdings or donations.
This post was edited on 7/21/10 at 10:25 am
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:27 am to dutchtowntiger100
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Someone will gladly get your tickets
their renewal rate dropped over a 1% this year. when people like me start figuring how this works and are pissed on for their support in the past. i don't think you will see people standing in line to pay 6 grand a year.
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:27 am to Newbomb Turk
What will happen is you'll see a lot more pooling of resources - I share my baseball tickets with a friend, we split it 50/50. Even baseball is getting out of control.
Basketball I could care less, I can watch that on TV.
Football will keep going up and pretty soon parking will be mandatory as well as those chairbacks.
Basketball I could care less, I can watch that on TV.
Football will keep going up and pretty soon parking will be mandatory as well as those chairbacks.
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:33 am to dos crystal
It's double-edged... You can get great tickets cheap if your team sucks. I would prefer to overpay.
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:34 am to dutchtowntiger100
as soon as possible, a vehicle free campus UNLESS you buy a pass is my belief.......and it is almost that way now......
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:41 am to dutchtowntiger100
quote:
Someone will gladly get your tickets
This
Regardless of how many people do not renew - there are always those that are trying to get season tickets. You may think it matters...but in the long run...there are others that will pay the donation...and be happy to pay
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:43 am to dos crystal
This is the exact reason I did not renew my TAF membership this season. The amount of money that you would have to donate in order to get away game tickets is dumb. I'd rather wait until there is a game that I'd like to attend and buy the tickets on stub hub rather than continue donating. You're pretty much just buying a lotto ticket with TAF donations.
This post was edited on 7/21/10 at 10:44 am
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:44 am to charlied
quote:WTF?! so students need a pass? Non-season ticket holder need a pass?
a vehicle free campus UNLESS you buy a pass is my belief
Whats wrong w/ parking in the gass lots?
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:45 am to dos crystal
quote:
you must donate to the building fund ect. to get credit for the priority points
quote:You have no idea what you are talking about. What you obviously fail to realize is that LSU now has TWO priority point rankings. The original ranking did not change. That ranking still determines away game seats, bowl seats etc. All of the donations you make relating to season tickets still increase your original priority point rank. The "new" philanthropic ranking is used ONLY to determine NEW season tickets or upgrades. So unless you plan on requesting additional tickets or upgrading them, the new philanthropic ranking has absolutely zero effect on you.
You could have played by the rules in the past for 15 to 20 years, donated a lot of money, and today it doesn't matter.
Now I will agree with you that I think it is pretty shitty that LSU decided to use a philanthropic ranking this year without advanced notice. If current ticket holders knew in advance, they may have made additional philanthropic donations prior to this season to raise their philanthropic ranking. In terms of determining new season tickets, it does penalize past donors who had been giving the required amount for years and favors non season ticket holders who gave a minimun of $100 per year. The goal I guess, was to help new people get tickets.
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:47 am to charlied
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as soon as possible, a vehicle free campus UNLESS you buy a pass is my belief.......and it is almost that way now......
which i wouldn't mind. however, the way the game is being played today, you would have to buy the pass and your punished for it. there is no credit for PAYING OR DONATING for your tickets and pass. Which, i'm good with from here to forth, that is the rules. However, your DONATIONS and PAYMENTS for the past, while playing by the rules in the past, ARE WIPED CLEAN!
Lets face it, you haven't got anything free in the past. you have paid for everything. you just got credit for what you did and an opportunity to BUY bowl tickets/championship tickets ect.
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:48 am to dos crystal
quote:
We all know lsu changed their donation policy this year. you must donate to the building fund ect. to get credit for the priority points.
What you may not realize, and I didn't until today, is this policy is retroactive. You could have played by the rules in the past for 15 to 20 years, donated a lot of money, and today it doesn't matter. you're starting all over. Your priority points can go from 300 down to 3000. from 1500 to 6000.
I think it makes perfect sense. They are taking away your past points that you have accumulated only through donating your Season ticket TAF points. Why should someone get points for a mandatory donation (season ticket TAF charge). The donation is basically part of the ticket price. When you see people reselling season tickets they are asking for TAF fee's too, which makes it not be a "donation". This means the rich get richer. This is benefitting the every day people who would have a harder time getting tickets.
It's not like they are taking your tickets back, I don't understand why you are so pissed about losing a few priority points and already having 8 tickets??
And yes, I do have season tickets.
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:49 am to dos crystal
I actually love the new policy.
I don't think it's fair that older people have an inherent advantage over younger people, merely because they've had tickets for a longer period of time.
I think the change was the most equitable way to do it from here on out. I've been donating to TAF ever since I got out of college (without season tickets, I've been on the waiting list every year), so why should someone be ranked ahead of me simply because they've had season tickets?
I've been giving money with nothing given to me in return (no season tickets).
I don't think it's fair that older people have an inherent advantage over younger people, merely because they've had tickets for a longer period of time.
I think the change was the most equitable way to do it from here on out. I've been donating to TAF ever since I got out of college (without season tickets, I've been on the waiting list every year), so why should someone be ranked ahead of me simply because they've had season tickets?
I've been giving money with nothing given to me in return (no season tickets).
This post was edited on 7/21/10 at 10:52 am
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:51 am to dos crystal
quote:
there is no credit for PAYING OR DONATING for your tickets
quote:Again, you are WRONG!
your DONATIONS and PAYMENTS for the past, while playing by the rules in the past, ARE WIPED CLEAN!
quote:and you still get that EXACT same credit today towards bowl/championship tickets. NOTHING HAS CHANGED with that.
Lets face it, you haven't got anything free in the past. you have paid for everything. you just got credit for what you did and an opportunity to BUY bowl tickets/championship tickets ect
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:55 am to jlsutiger
quote:
You have no idea what you are talking about. What you obviously fail to realize is that LSU now has TWO priority point rankings. The original ranking did not change. That ranking still determines away game seats, bowl seats etc. All of the donations you make relating to season tickets still increase your original priority point rank. The "new" philanthropic ranking is used ONLY to determine NEW season tickets or upgrades. So unless you plan on requesting additional tickets or upgrading them, the new philanthropic ranking has absolutely zero effect on you.
son, you have no idea what YOU are talking about. I, like you, thought exactly the same thing. I just inquired about my tickets and my ranking from T.A.F.. THIS WAS THE EXPLANATION GIVEN FROM T.A.F.
it's why i'm on here to educate those, like me, who are ignorant to how the new policy works. Go check into your rank, if you're a member, and see if you didn't drop a great deal (500-600%). the only way it doesn't is if you have been a philanthropic donor in the past.
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:58 am to JPLSU1981
quote:idk about this. If you've had tickets for 30 years, you've earned them
I don't think it's fair that older people have an inherent advantage over younger people, merely because they've had tickets for a longer period of time.
Posted on 7/21/10 at 10:58 am to dos crystal
There are two rankings, your normal priority ranking/points and your philanthropic ranking/points.
Log into your TAF acct, click on member center, click on account details, and you can see BOTH rankings.
The philanthropic points/ranking only applies to new season tickets and upgrades, nothing else.
Directly from the horse's mouth...
Log into your TAF acct, click on member center, click on account details, and you can see BOTH rankings.
The philanthropic points/ranking only applies to new season tickets and upgrades, nothing else.
Directly from the horse's mouth...
This post was edited on 7/21/10 at 11:01 am
Posted on 7/21/10 at 11:01 am to dos crystal
quote:Oh my God, you are completely fricking retarded. You now have TWO (2) priority point rankings. Your original ranking DID NOT CHANGE. It is still there and still applies to bowl game and away game tickets. The new philanthropic ONLY applies to new/upgraded tickets. I don't know how to explain this more clearly to you. THIS IS A FACT. I'm sorry you are confused, but you are wrong.
son, you have no idea what YOU are talking about. I, like you, thought exactly the same thing. I just inquired about my tickets and my ranking from T.A.F.. THIS WAS THE EXPLANATION GIVEN FROM T.A.F.
it's why i'm on here to educate those, like me, who are ignorant to how the new policy works. Go check into your rank, if you're a member, and see if you didn't drop a great deal (500-600%). the only way it doesn't is if you have been a philanthropic donor in the past.
Sign in to you taf account on their website and you will see something like this:
"Your current Priority Point total is: xxxx
Your current Priority Point Ranking is: xxxx
Your current Philanthropic Point total is: xxxx
Your current Philanthropic Point Ranking is: xxxx
Now please STOP misinforming people. Good day.
This post was edited on 7/21/10 at 11:32 am
Posted on 7/21/10 at 11:05 am to dos crystal
I'm not sure why you are upset.
How does the change affect you? If you already have 8 season tickets and a parking pass, the only affect if would have on you is if you were wanting to upgrade seats at some point. the normal ranking/points are still used for bowl games, away games, etc.
Other than that, the change has absolutely no affect on you.
How does the change affect you? If you already have 8 season tickets and a parking pass, the only affect if would have on you is if you were wanting to upgrade seats at some point. the normal ranking/points are still used for bowl games, away games, etc.
Other than that, the change has absolutely no affect on you.
This post was edited on 7/21/10 at 11:08 am
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